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White Helmet wrote:It means that they are, at best, the 3rd best team in the conference. Many would probably look at records/results and count Cincinnati and potentially UCF as better as well. So the 4-5 best team in the AAC shouldn't get to whine they dont get "a shot at the big boys"...

White Helmet wrote:

CA Mustang wrote:So the fact they lost to ranked teams on the road by one score means they aren't worthy?

It means that they are, at best, the 3rd best team in the conference. Many would probably look at records/results and count Cincinnati and potentially UCF as better as well. So the 4-5 best team in the AAC shouldn't get to whine they dont get "a shot at the big boys"...

DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:

White Helmet wrote:It means that they are, at best, the 3rd best team in the conference. Many would probably look at records/results and count Cincinnati and potentially UCF as better as well. So the 4-5 best team in the AAC shouldn't get to whine they dont get "a shot at the big boys"...

Exactly.

Obviously we all love SMU and are enjoying our best season in over a generation, but there are a ton of non-P5 teams with great seasons this year:

Memphis (11-1)
Boise State (11-1)
App State (11-1)
Cincinnati (10-2)
SMU (10-2)
Navy (9-2 - could be 10-2)
Air Force (10-2)
Louisiana-Lafayette (10-2)

I can tell your right now if Boise doesn't thieve it's way to the cotton bowl then it will be in the Vegas bowl playing PAC12. Tell me how a crappy MWC team that lost to freak BYU gets a P5 opponent and we possibly get stuck with 6-6 Ohio...
Plus Central Florida, four C-USA schools, and San Diego State all at 9-3.

They aren't all "going to get a shot at the big boys" no matter how great their seasons have been, which is why I still won't be a bit surprised if we end up in a bowl like Frisco playing a .500 MAC team.

SMU_Alum11 wrote:

DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:

White Helmet wrote:It means that they are, at best, the 3rd best team in the conference. Many would probably look at records/results and count Cincinnati and potentially UCF as better as well. So the 4-5 best team in the AAC shouldn't get to whine they dont get "a shot at the big boys"...

Exactly.

Obviously we all love SMU and are enjoying our best season in over a generation, but there are a ton of non-P5 teams with great seasons this year:

Memphis (11-1)
Boise State (11-1)
App State (11-1)
Cincinnati (10-2)
SMU (10-2)
Navy (9-2 - could be 10-2)
Air Force (10-2)
Louisiana-Lafayette (10-2)

I can tell your right now if Boise doesn't thieve it's way to the cotton bowl then it will be in the Vegas bowl playing PAC12. Tell me how a crappy MWC team that lost to freak BYU gets a P5 opponent and we possibly get stuck with 6-6 Ohio...
Plus Central Florida, four C-USA schools, and San Diego State all at 9-3.

They aren't all "going to get a shot at the big boys" no matter how great their seasons have been, which is why I still won't be a bit surprised if we end up in a bowl like Frisco playing a .500 MAC team.

SMU_Alum11 wrote:I can tell your right now if Boise doesn't thieve it's way to the cotton bowl then it will be in the Vegas bowl playing PAC12. Tell me how a crappy MWC team that lost to freak BYU gets a P5 opponent and we possibly get stuck with 6-6 Ohio...

ponyboy wrote:If you want to be Machiavellian about it, we don’t deserve any more than what bowl committees give us. But, yeah, I’d say a team that spent two thirds of the regular season ranked — and who is now one spot outside the Top 25 — who’s having an historically significant season after 30 years between hell and purgatory, who lost once each AT two currently ranked teams in highly competitive games deserves a little love when it comes time for bowl selection.

ponyboy wrote:If you want to be Machiavellian about it, we don’t deserve any more than what bowl committees give us. But, yeah, I’d say a team that spent two thirds of the regular season ranked — and who is now one spot outside the Top 25 — who’s having an historically significant season after 30 years between hell and purgatory, who lost once each AT two currently ranked teams in highly competitive games deserves a little love when it comes time for bowl selection.

WordUpBU wrote:My hope for SMU is to get the Independence Vs an ACC team. It’s a name opponent, a likely win, and driveable.

White Helmet wrote:

SMU_Alum11 wrote:I can tell your right now if Boise doesn't thieve it's way to the cotton bowl then it will be in the Vegas bowl playing PAC12. Tell me how a crappy MWC team that lost to freak BYU gets a P5 opponent and we possibly get stuck with 6-6 Ohio...

It could be:
8-4, 12-1, 13-1, 11-1, 9-4, 13-0, 10-3, 12-1, 14-0, 12-1, 12-1, 11-2, 8-5, 12-2, 9-4, 10-3, 11-3, 10-3, 11-1
vs
3-9, 4-7, 3-9, 0-12, 3-8, 5-6, 6-6, 1-11, 1-11, 8-5, 7-7, 8-5, 7-6, 5-7, 1-11, 2-10, 5-7, 7-6, 5-7, 10-2
Records since Boise became division 1

or

34,273 31,126 33,068
vs
21,043 19,944, 19,383

Attendance averages for the last 3 years...

Charleston Pony wrote:I do think we will be the 5th best option the AAC has to offer (better than Temple and Tulane, but behind the rest of our bowl eligible teams). I think Tulane goes to Frisco and SMU ends up in one of the Florida games, but I agree with others that it would be nice to get either the Texas Bowl or Shreveport. From a "rewarding the players, coaches and staff" standpoint, Hawaii would probably top their list.

Charleston Pony wrote:I do think we will be the 5th best option the AAC has to offer (better than Temple and Tulane, but behind the rest of our bowl eligible teams). I think Tulane goes to Frisco and SMU ends up in one of the Florida games, but I agree with others that it would be nice to get either the Texas Bowl or Shreveport. From a "rewarding the players, coaches and staff" standpoint, Hawaii would probably top their list.