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JohnnyRock wrote:Why do we continue to play Big 12 schools non-conference when the Big 12 does not want us? We need wins. 3-1 or 4-0 going into conference play not -0-4, 1-3 or 2-2. We need wins and bowl games.

JR, you'll get your wish next year.

2017 home schedule:
SFA, NTSU, Arkansas St, UCF, UConn, Tulane and Tulsa.

Question is how much fan interest this will generate. Only diehards will be purchasing season tickets.

Maybe make the font for "state" very small for Ark State?

SoCal_Pony wrote:LA,

When you layer in our record against the SWC post-DP with the B12, it's 6-76-3

Those 6 wins were:

1992, Arkansas (3-7-1)
1992, TCU (4-7)
1992, Houston (4-7)
1993, TCU (4-7)
1995, Arkansas (8-5)
2000, Kansas (4-7)

That's it.

Don't the '96 & '97 wins vs. Arkansas count?

CA Mustang wrote:

SoCal_Pony wrote:LA,

When you layer in our record against the SWC post-DP with the B12, it's 6-76-3

Those 6 wins were:

1992, Arkansas (3-7-1)
1992, TCU (4-7)
1992, Houston (4-7)
1993, TCU (4-7)
1995, Arkansas (8-5)
2000, Kansas (4-7)

That's it.

Don't the '96 & '97 wins vs. Arkansas count?

CA,

1) SMU was in the WAC & Ark in the SEC, so I excluded those games
2) You are correct about Nate Silver, HRC is at 55% vs DJT at 45%, input error by me
3) Black vote from LA Times, on that we will find out on election day

SoCal_Pony wrote:

JohnnyRock wrote:Why do we continue to play Big 12 schools non-conference when the Big 12 does not want us? We need wins. 3-1 or 4-0 going into conference play not -0-4, 1-3 or 2-2. We need wins and bowl games.

JR, you'll get your wish next year.

2017 home schedule:
SFA, NTSU, Arkansas St, UCF, UConn, Tulane and Tulsa.

Question is how much fan interest this will generate. Only diehards will be purchasing season tickets.

Fan interest is measured in how good the team is, not the name of the team we play against. SMU has no excuse to win every game in that home slate you mentioned.

SoCal_Pony wrote:

CA Mustang wrote:

SoCal_Pony wrote:LA,

When you layer in our record against the SWC post-DP with the B12, it's 6-76-3

Those 6 wins were:

1992, Arkansas (3-7-1)
1992, TCU (4-7)
1992, Houston (4-7)
1993, TCU (4-7)
1995, Arkansas (8-5)
2000, Kansas (4-7)

That's it.

Don't the '96 & '97 wins vs. Arkansas count?

CA,

1) SMU was in the WAC & Ark in the SEC, so I excluded those games
2) You are correct about Nate Silver, HRC is at 55% vs DJT at 45%, input error by me
3) Black vote from LA Times, on that we will find out on election day

Arkansas joined the SEC in '92.

SoCal_Pony wrote:
2017 home schedule:
SFA, NTSU, Arkansas St, UCF, UConn, Tulane and Tulsa.

NTSU is the only one of those games that'll have 20K butts in seats.

sbsmith wrote:

SoCal_Pony wrote:
2017 home schedule:
SFA, NTSU, Arkansas St, UCF, UConn, Tulane and Tulsa.

NTSU is the only one of those games that'll have 20K butts in seats.

That is gotta be the most boring home schedule I have ever see . Agreed, NTCC is the only one with around 20k people. People like Johnny are going to see a truly empty stadium. Might as well bring the cardboard cutouts, hopefully they look good on TV.

TCU wasn't part of the Big 12 a few years back when we beat them in Ft. Worth? Or did we lose that overtime game? I thought we won.

ponyte wrote:TCU wasn't part of the Big 12 a few years back when we beat them in Ft. Worth? Or did we lose that overtime game? I thought we won.

We won the overtime game in 2011 I believe when TCU was still in the MWC or WAC or whatever. They joined B12 in 2012, although it was announced in 2011.

sbsmith wrote:

SoCal_Pony wrote:
2017 home schedule:
SFA, NTSU, Arkansas St, UCF, UConn, Tulane and Tulsa.

NTSU is the only one of those games that'll have 20K butts in seats.

Good God! That home slate is atrocious. I do see some Ws though. . . which might be a refreshing change.

1983 Cotton Bowl wrote:

sbsmith wrote:

SoCal_Pony wrote:
2017 home schedule:
SFA, NTSU, Arkansas St, UCF, UConn, Tulane and Tulsa.

NTSU is the only one of those games that'll have 20K butts in seats.

Good God! That home slate is atrocious. I do see some Ws though. . . which might be a refreshing change.

That's a 7-0 home slate, and attendance should be relative to how the team is doing. Last Games could come.close to selling out if SMU is undefeated or with 1 or 2 losses near the end of the season.

Just win baby.

That is a 2017 schedule that has got to get us to a bowl, and frankly 9 wins should be the target.

Curious, what is the other AAC team's record against the Big 12 or SEC during that time frame. I would think only Houston is much better than ours. Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis, UCF, etc.?