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Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:31 pm
by diamond_tom
ReedFrawg wrote:Was there ever any estimate (or confirmation) as to how many players got paid? Really just curious about the "payroll"...was it 5 players? 50?


Here's a document I have had for a while. I guess this is a good time to share it. I don't know if it is comprehensive. It is written by someone (I guess Ron Meyer when he got to Boston) to George Owens (one of the ninebanned boosters). This was his payroll to meet.

The right column is partially cut-off but shows the number of months for payment.

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:38 pm
by peruna81
diamond_tom wrote:
ReedFrawg wrote:Was there ever any estimate (or confirmation) as to how many players got paid? Really just curious about the "payroll"...was it 5 players? 50?


Here's a document I have had for a while. I guess this is a good time to share it. I don't know if it is comprehensive. It is written by someone (I guess Ron Meyer when he got to Boston) to George Owens (one of the ninebanned boosters). This was his payroll to meet.

The right column is partially cut-off but shows the number of months for payment.

if this is as you suggest, wow...just wow.

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:22 am
by Big Al
diamond_tom wrote:
ReedFrawg wrote:Was there ever any estimate (or confirmation) as to how many players got paid? Really just curious about the "payroll"...was it 5 players? 50?


Here's a document I have had for a while. I guess this is a good time to share it. I don't know if it is comprehensive. It is written by someone (I guess Ron Meyer when he got to Boston) to George Owens (one of the ninebanned boosters). This was his payroll to meet.

The right column is partially cut-off but shows the number of months for payment.

If true, Harvey Armstrong and Russell Carter were bargains.

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:27 am
by ponyboy
This is stunning. Absolutely stunning. One name in particular surprises the hell out of me. And notice the lack of Craig James on the list.

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:36 am
by RednBlue11
this isnt everyone, just one booster's responsibility...people need to know that.

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:36 am
by ponyboy
Good point. I am just shocked to see the name of one of my best friends on that list.

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:38 am
by RednBlue11
couch 'em wrote:
mrflinnbob wrote:Doesn't Sherwood have a son enrolled this year as a freshman?


a quick search on http://smu.edu/search/emailsearch.asp reveals the following Blounts:

Corbin Barrett Blount: cblount@smu.edu

Robert Rowland Blount: rblount@smu.edu


No clue if they are Sherwood Spawn.



ive met rowe blount several times, and he doesnt resemble sherwood at all...but idk.

yall might recognize rowe as the student who dressed up like a red and blue indian for games.

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:40 am
by RednBlue11
ponyboy wrote:Good point. I am just shocked to see the name of one of my best friends on that list.


frankly i would be shocked if he had players that weren't paid before 1985.

and really, i have no moral qualms w/ paying players.

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:42 am
by CalallenStang
Posted this on the other thread with the list which is presumably from Meyer to George Owens:


Dickerson's HOF Speech:
People like George Owens, who treated me like a son when I was at SMU. Who when things were tough for me, he’d sit and talk to me. When I couldn’t get back to Texas, back to Sealy, Texas, he’d talk to me. And I really thank you George, for that.

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/membe ... tab=Speech

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:48 am
by ponyboy
RednBlue11 wrote:and really, i have no moral qualms w/ paying players.


So rules mean nothing to you?

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:57 am
by RednBlue11
ponyboy wrote:
RednBlue11 wrote:and really, i have no moral qualms w/ paying players.


So rules mean nothing to you?


you're projecting what i said out over an awfully broad area.

the NCAA is a hypocrisy, i encourage the active subversion of their policies.

those players deliver and extremely valuable commodity, and this being the USA, they deserve to be paid for delivering that service.

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:05 pm
by ponyboy
I agree to an extent, I guess. They need to be paid for their services. And, no, tuition isn't enough.

Re: Thoughts on Pony Excess

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:17 pm
by PK
ponyboy wrote:I agree to an extent, I guess. They need to be paid for their services. And, no, tuition isn't enough.

It should be enough at the SMU tuition rate...assuming they want a good college education. If you want to pay them at the Pro rate, better get ready for MUCH higher ticket prices. 8)