Cookies Anyone?

[Duke Blue Blood]

Are our students really that stupid?

[PK]

I hate to say this because it's going to hurt Stallion's feelings, but the kid who was sort of leading this thing is a Law School student.

[Hoop Fan]

Its inflammatory for sure, which may make it a dumb thing to do, but the analogy itself ain't stupid. I say ain't cuz i wint to SMU, n not Duke. I imagine SMU alums are burning up the email circuits today, here is what I said about it to my old roommate:

SMU ain't a good enough school for the students to feel the need to protest
affirmative action. Let them do that at Michigan, or Berkeley. Everybody
gets into SMU. Even illiterates like you Chris. That story just makes SMU
appear snobbish, racist and stupid. Having said that, I thought it was a
pretty damn clever analogy.

If the analogy did't have a grain of truth or impactfulness, it would have never hit the news like it did. That much is clear.

[OldPony]

What are you guys talking about?

[Pony_Fan]

<A HREF="http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/09/25/smu.bake.sale.ap/index.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/09/25/smu.bake.sale.ap/index.html</A>

[Hoop Fan]

OP, here is the story, sorry for the spacing:

Southern Methodist University has censored an "affirmative action bake
sale"--a performance-art piece of sorts, designed to protest racial
discrimination in higher education, the Associated Press reports from
Dallas:


A sign said white males had to pay $1 for a cookie. The price was 75
cents for white women, 50 cents for Hispanics and 25 cents for
blacks. . . .


A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was
offensive. SMU officials said they halted the event after 45 minutes
because it created a potentially unsafe situation.


"This was not an issue about free speech," Tim Moore, director of
the SMU student center, said in a story for Thursday's edition of
The Dallas Morning News. "It was really an issue where we had a
hostile environment being created."


The AP quotes 19-year-old Matt Houston, a sophomore: "My reaction was
disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students. They were arguing
that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race.
It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

[abezontar]

you left out the part where they sold 3 cookies for a grand total of 1.50, makes you wonder who bought them.

[OldPony]

Thanks-Protests usually offend people. That is what they intend to do. I find this a little silly and immature. It looks racist even if the message isn't intended to be.
Frankly,I wish they would all show up at the stadium and protest the unmerciful beating of our poor Ponies. Do you think maybe the ASPCA would lead it?

[Hoop Fan]

Good one, OP. Protect the equines!

[Cupcaking]

Well they better be glad it was closed down early because cookies were about to be flying in front of hughes-trigg after word got out. I bet that would have made an interesting story.

[gostangs]

How does one bring bring diversity to an organization unless it is based on race? Sorry - never mind - political question on a sports board.

[PK]

Gender...socio/economic levels...hair color...age...weight...height...carnivorous vs vegetarian...nationality...native lanquage/accent/slang...geek vs ? you name it...north or south of Mason Dixon line...I don't know. How do you define diversity???



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[Hoop Fan]

There are no easy answers or absolutes on this. That is why it is being debated by the Supreme Court. We aren't gonna solve it or convince each other here. Let University of Michigan be the lightning rod for this, we don't need it.

[FloridaMustang]

Whether you agree with affirmative action or not, this was a disdainful display by the young conservatives. it was bordering on racism, sexism, you name it. put conservative kids in a bubble and all the sudden they forget that there are fellow students, women and minorities, etc., that are probably going to be REALLY offended by their little display? sorry, this is EXACTLY how i remember most SMU kids... i'm ashamed and i'm a conservative person myself. Some of the SMU stereotypes, i'm afraid, are very deserved. the attitudes of smu students are what they are because THERE IS NO DIVERSITY. and this little stunt sure didn't help the situation.

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[LA_Mustang]

Great exposure for SMU, this story was just reported on ABC's Wold News Tonight with Peter Jennings.