The Solution

[Johnny Rock]

All of us on this board have shared our opinions on what needs to be done to fix SMU athletics. Many of us have come to the conclusion that the people who run the athletic department are morons and their Model does not work. It is quite obvious that the morons who call the shots will not change the way the athletic department is operated. Since this is the case, SMU needs to drop out of Division 1-A athletics. It is no fun for the fans or the players to endure losign season after losing season. SMU'S fans base now consists of the band and the players parents. Many of the alumni have given up on the program and do not attend games anymore. I am embarressed at games when only 10K show up to a sanctioned Division 1-A game. We cannot even compete with the bottom teams in a sub-par conference. We also have the distinction of being the worst team in Division 1-A. The losing will continue unless we drop out of Division 1-A. Make the move SMU and save yourself further embarresment.

[MrMustang1965]

JR: It sounds like you've been hitting the Wild Turkey a bit early before Turkey Day! Yeah, times are tough on the Hilltop right now. But I have faith that things WILL get better! For SMU to drop to Div.1-AA and play schools like Sam Houston State, Stephen F. Austin State, Texas State-San Marcos, Nicholls State, McNeese State, Northwestern State, etc. would only help the NCAA pat itself on the back and say that the Death Penalty was the 'right thing to do.' Good God, man! We're going to Conference USA in 2005! What in heaven's name would prompt you to post something like this now? As for the 'lack of attendance' at home games and road games, I think you'd better take a closer look at who is REALLY at those games. It's the alumni and non-alumni fans (like me!) who are there, cheering on the Mustangs. I don't see much of a student body following. It was embarrassing at Homecoming, in fact, when the students all left at halftime. And they've done the same at almost every game I've attended this year.

[mrydel]

Johnny:

Why don't you go and find a Div IAA to support and let the rest of us try to work toward and hopefully find a solution to our program. With your attitude and continued degrading statements, I would prefer you just move on so you can be happy elsewhere. The last thing I want is for you to continue to suffer.

[Spaz]

Originally posted by Johnny Rock:
All of us on this board have shared our opinions on what needs to be done to fix SMU athletics. Many of us have come to the conclusion that the people who run the athletic department are morons and their Model does not work. It is quite obvious that the morons who call the shots will not change the way the athletic department is operated. Since this is the case, SMU needs to drop out of Division 1-A athletics. It is no fun for the fans or the players to endure losign season after losing season. SMU'S fans base now consists of the band and the players parents. Many of the alumni have given up on the program and do not attend games anymore. I am embarressed at games when only 10K show up to a sanctioned Division 1-A game. We cannot even compete with the bottom teams in a sub-par conference. We also have the distinction of being the worst team in Division 1-A. The losing will continue unless we drop out of Division 1-A. Make the move SMU and save yourself further embarresment.

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The Spaz

[MrMustang1965]

Originally posted by mrydel:
Johnny:

Why don't you go and find a Div IAA to support and let the rest of us try to work toward and hopefully find a solution to our program. With your attitude and continued degrading statements, I would prefer you just move on so you can be happy elsewhere. The last thing I want is for you to continue to suffer.

Come on down to my alma mater, Sam Houston State. We've got a coach (Ron Randleman) who's been there for 22 years. Randleman has 10 winning seasons, 11 losing seasons and one 5-5 campaign. His career record at SHSU is 121-121-3. He has guided the Kats to four conference championships, three Division I-AA playoff appearances and one top 10 national ranking.
Basically, he's someone else who's been given a 'life sentence' in Huntsville...and we, the fans, are suffering because of it. We could use your 'input' in our Div.1-AA forum. Here's the link: http://www.eteamz.com/bearkatsportsforum/

[Hoop Fan]

JohnnyBoy, you're entitled to your opinion, but please don't call it a solution. I don't even consider dropping down a viable option for SMU, but I guess it is one option every school has. No matter, it sure as hell ain't a solution. You know what I'd like to see? Turner, Copeland and the Board of Trustees sitting down there in the west bleachers with the real fans until the bitter end against TCU. They should have to sit there and experience it.

[Spaz]

MrMustang,

Sorry if I've missed something in our conversations, but if your Alma Matter is Sam Houston, I'm curious what your stake in SMU is?
Why do you support us like you do?

I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, I'm honestly wondering.

The Spaz

[EastStang]

TROLL ALERT, TROLL ALERT: JR- I thought SMU grads were not quitters. To go Division 1-AA is to throw in the towel and say I quit, I'm not worthy anymore. You should hand in your Mustang bumper sticker, quitter. You've been saying you're an SMU fan for awhile now, but at the end of your last post you put something in the third person which tells me, you're really a TROLL. ("Make the move SMU and save yourself further embarresment.") Go back to TCU and cry about how your team choked away a chance at a BCS game. Man I hate these faux fans on this board. Oh and by the way, Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

[OldPony]

Johnny makes the same stupid argument every month or so and he always calls it s solution. I suspect he is a Frog but he will deny it so why respond to his asine posts.
I would prefer to wish the rest of you a Happy Thanksgiving ! May there be more Mustang supporters like those on this board(even those I disagree with) in the future.
Basketball is here. Time to get our collective chins off of the floor and cheer again for the Mustangs. Remeber, if we could attract as many alums for a basketball game as football, we would sell out Moody and it would become a nightmare for visitors..

[geephunk]

JR is a major tool!

[MrMustang1965]

Originally posted by Spaz:
MrMustang,

Sorry if I've missed something in our conversations, but if your Alma Matter is Sam Houston, I'm curious what your stake in SMU is?
Why do you support us like you do?

I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, I'm honestly wondering.

The Spaz

Spaz:
First, I was raised in Dallas, just north of the campus. SMU is 'the hometown college/university' so I support the school, even to this day (I now live in Houston). Second, I was supposed to go to SMU but my 'major' wasn't as strong there as it was at SHSU. Third, SMU is 'in my blood': my father was a yell leader there in the late 40s (he passed away last December) and my mother also went to school there at the same time. She still works on campus. My maternal grandmother went there as did my uncle (my mother's brother) and my great uncle (Bill Skeeters) who played football there in the late 20s. And, of course, I was named "Mr. Mustang" at the Homecoming observance in 1965 and got to spend a great day on the sidelines with the cheerleaders and players at the Cotton Bowl when they beat the Teasips, 34-14! I've been to so many SMU football and basketball games over the years, I've lost count. No...I didn't go to school at SMU...but my love for the school's athletic programs is boundless. And 'right to the end I'll stand.' The license plates on my car say it all: S.M.U.

GO MUSTANGS! GO MUSTANG BAND! BEAT THE HELL OUTTA T.C.U.! :thumbupcool:

[Spaz]

Wow, now THAT'S DEVOTION FOLKS!!!

[Charleston Pony]

Johnny has no clue. Hey, Johnny: if you want company, go over to the other site and have this conversation with jtstang (that is, if you aren't jt posting under a clever disguise). Then again, if you are jt, you can pull a memphis mustang and have conversations with yourself to stir things up.

The only way to look at this program is that after Saturday, SMU will have officially bottomed out and from there we have only one way to go...and that ain't to I-AA or Division II as some of our less knowledgeable posters like to call it.

[methodistmustang]

I just wanted to point out to J-Rock that MrMustang is no fb players daddy and neither am I(a current student). It is very easy to kick people while they're down, froggies. However, we, the fans, have no more to do with our team's losing record as you do with your teams great season. Quit basking in reflective glory. Only people from Dallas or people who attend or did attend SMU should brag about either school. Because anyone can go to TCU. Anyone can support a team that happens to be winning right now. Not anyone can go to SMU.

[Johnny Rock]

You guys are all wrong. I am not a TCU fan. I am an SMU fan that has a realistic view of SMU athletics. The way I see it is that SMU has two choices that are acceptable to me (and for many other SMU students and alums that I have talked to) (1) fully commit to Division 1 athletics (which means changing the current model and allow the coaches to recruit from a wider pool of students, add a few athlete friendly majors, and recruit JUCO players or (2) keep the current model and drop down to Division II or Division 1-AA. I prefer the first option, but it is clear that the morons in the athletic department are clueless when it comes to running a Division 1 athletic program. Many of you are too closely associated with the athletic program since you are so quick to defend it despite its lack of success. Many of you need to clear the crap out of your eyes and wake up to the realities of SMU athletics. N. Texas is having success. TCU is as well. Baylor is having some success now in a much tougher conference. We, on the other hand, are losing to the bottom teams in Division 1-A football. Another dismal year and yet you guys are so quick to defend what is going on at SMU. Well, you guys are wrong. The system needs to be changed at SMU or we need to drop out of Division 1-A so we can compete. End of story.