ESPN: New TCU Offense

[Big12Mustang]

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id ... ying-field

For years, TCU stuck to an offensive philosophy built around trying to out-physical foes and trick them with play action. That style won the Horned Frogs five conference titles while in the Mountain West and Conference USA. They have not won many Big 12 games.

After two years in his new league and a 6-12 record in Big 12 play, TCU coach Gary Patterson knew it was time for a new approach.

“We’re going to a style of offense that I thought evened the playing field,” Patterson said.

He went out and landed a pair of offensive coordinators who know Big 12 ball to design a hybrid Oklahoma State-Texas Tech scheme that Patterson says will still have “some of the old TCU” in the run game.

But this is the new TCU. No playbook, no huddle, no looking back.

Let's see how our team handles this change our biggest rival is going through, when we see them next September.

[JoeKidd]

First year into a new offense or new defense is always tough for a team to adjust to. I think TCU will have even more problems getting yards this year. I sure would like to beat them again.

[sbsmith]

Uh-oh, we don't do so well against the no-huddle.

[WordUpBU]

TCU's big issues on offense the last 2 years were OL and QB. The scheme will help a little but the scheme wasn't exactly broken in 2010 or 2011 when they ran essentially the same design.

TCU's lost a lot of key linemen over the last 2 years and it tanked their offense along with losing the only capable pass-first QB they had for 75% of the past 2 years.

[East Coast Mustang]

Who is their QB going to be this year? Surely not Boykin but they're pretty young behind him I think,

I've got TCU down for 5-7 this year but beating us at Ford. If they miss another bowl, when do the natives in Ft Worth start getting restless? GP can't recruit with the top tier Big 12 schools and he's not good enough of a coach like Briles to win with inferior talent. GP was in his element when he could whip MWC schools year in and year out and take one or two swings at the big boys each year. I thought when they made the move to the Big 12 he'd be in over his head. I think this is a big year for him and his future trajectory at TCU

[SMU2007]

I'd still take if over 5-7 in the sh*tty aac

[ReedFrawg]

Who is their QB going to be this year? Surely not Boykin but they're pretty young behind him I think,

I've got TCU down for 5-7 this year but beating us at Ford. If they miss another bowl, when do the natives in Ft Worth start getting restless? GP can't recruit with the top tier Big 12 schools and he's not good enough of a coach like Briles to win with inferior talent. GP was in his element when he could whip MWC schools year in and year out and take one or two swings at the big boys each year. I thought when they made the move to the Big 12 he'd be in over his head. I think this is a big year for him and his future trajectory at TCU

I don't think 5-7 puts GP on any hot seat. Recruiting for 2015 is off to a strong start and I am willing to chalk up a couple down seasons while adjusting to the Big12. It might be different if we weren't competitive but we could have easily won 8-9 games last year.

[East Coast Mustang]

Who is their QB going to be this year? Surely not Boykin but they're pretty young behind him I think,

I've got TCU down for 5-7 this year but beating us at Ford. If they miss another bowl, when do the natives in Ft Worth start getting restless? GP can't recruit with the top tier Big 12 schools and he's not good enough of a coach like Briles to win with inferior talent. GP was in his element when he could whip MWC schools year in and year out and take one or two swings at the big boys each year. I thought when they made the move to the Big 12 he'd be in over his head. I think this is a big year for him and his future trajectory at TCU

I don't think 5-7 puts GP on any hot seat. Recruiting for 2015 is off to a strong start and I am willing to chalk up a couple down seasons while adjusting to the Big12. It might be different if we weren't competitive but we could have easily won 8-9 games last year.

True, I just think the questions about whether or not he can in a power conference will be amplified if TCU misses a bowl game again. Not to say he hasn't done a tremendous job there, though.

[SMU 86]

First year into a new offense or new defense is always tough for a team to adjust to. I think TCU will have even more problems getting yards this year. I sure would like to beat them again.

Aren't we going to the no huddle this tear as well since we hired the coach from the Oregon high school?

[FroggieFever]

GP can't recruit with the top tier Big 12 schools and he's not good enough of a coach like Briles to win with inferior talent.

2008 Baylor 4–8 2–6 (AB's first year)
2009 Baylor 4–8 1–7 (AB's second year)

Give GP a few years to adjust to the conference.

[PonyTime]

"No Playbook":
I would assume that would mean that they would just draw up the plays in the dirt in the huddle - but add in the "no huddle" and I am confused.

"No Huddle"
Suppose that the QB could just call out routes at the line of scrimmage a la Payton Manning - but they don't have Payton Manning.

If this is their new offensive philosophy, I am all for it!

[FroggieFever]

"No Playbook":
I would assume that would mean that they would just draw up the plays in the dirt in the huddle - but add in the "no huddle" and I am confused.

"No Huddle"
Suppose that the QB could just call out routes at the line of scrimmage a la Payton Manning - but they don't have Payton Manning.

If this is their new offensive philosophy, I am all for it!

There is a "playbook" but it isn't 50 pages deep. It's two. The offense, at its' basis, will be incredibly simple, though will allow for variation.

[Big12Mustang]

TCU's big issues on offense the last 2 years were OL and QB. The scheme will help a little but the scheme wasn't exactly broken in 2010 or 2011 when they ran essentially the same design.

TCU's lost a lot of key linemen over the last 2 years and it tanked their offense along with losing the only capable pass-first QB they had for 75% of the past 2 years.

TCU will not be as bad as everybody thinks they will be. We might beat them, we might not.

Man but Baylor is loaded for Bear! I mean coming off of that big Fiesta Bowl win...wait a second...

A.A.C.

[Fresno Mustang]

Must be nice to have a coach that sees something isnt working and brings in new talent at the coordinator position to fix it.

[East Coast Mustang]

GP can't recruit with the top tier Big 12 schools and he's not good enough of a coach like Briles to win with inferior talent.

2008 Baylor 4–8 2–6 (AB's first year)
2009 Baylor 4–8 1–7 (AB's second year)

Give GP a few years to adjust to the conference.

Briles took over a trainwreck of a program at Baylor. GP had been at TCU for like 10 years before joining the Big 12.