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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby CalallenStang » Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:32 pm

SMU SID wrote:My apologies. Bad link. See http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000366041/printable/smu-coach-havenot-cfb-programs-should-play-in-spring.

Coach is using Group of Five to refer to what you're calling the Power Five.


That's fair enough. I'm sure that there are reasons why June and the athletic department chose the words they did.
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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby fifty » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:14 pm

Very confusing statement. Group of Five is the ESPN term for the have-nots. Oh well. Nobody died.
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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby mrydel » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:15 pm

fifty wrote:Very confusing statement. Group of Five is the ESPN term for the have-nots. Oh well. Nobody died.

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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby HarvCrimYaleBlue » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:21 pm

DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:It was nice of June to sit down and take time to write that statement to clarify his comments.


Ha I LOL-ed as they say.
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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby blackoutpony » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:27 pm

SMU SID wrote:My apologies. Bad link. See http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000366041/printable/smu-coach-havenot-cfb-programs-should-play-in-spring.

Coach is using Group of Five to refer to what you're calling the Power Five.


Every single person in the entire country, I guess except for June and whoever wrote his statement, refers to the Group of Five as the AAC, MWC, CUSA, MAC and Sun Belt. This same group of people, that being everyone, refers to the ACC, B1G, Big XII, SEC and Pac-12 as the P5 or Power 5.

Stop trying to outsmart yourselves. It makes the department look completely incompetent if you can't even refer to things by their commonly associated and well known terms. Good lord....

I guess it shouldn't shock me if June doesn't know this, since he gave a radio interview last summer saying he was looking forward to playing Syracuse and refers to his recruits at signing day by "That Allen kid will be good. And yeah, we got that Houston guy and that other Houston guy" (paraphrasing). Talk about someone just being completely clueless and uninterested in his job.
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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby Charleston Pony » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:27 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:The thing that really chaps my [deleted] is that June could be an awesome recruiter if he just gave a [deleted]. He's got NFL head coaching experience, a lot of ties with NFL coaching staffs, and has a decent track record of getting guys in the league. Plus, from everything I've heard from players who have played under him, he's a really good guy who cares about his players and takes a genuine interest in their personal success off the field. He also does some commendable things in the community that don't get a lot of press, partially because he doesn't really seek out attention (besides the movie!)

I just don't understand why he has such little interest in selling himself and the program to higher caliber recruits- he has a lot to offer as a coach and SMU as a program has a lot of unique things to offer. Hell, we did the "Recruiting Blitz" for two weeks and picked up some solid recruits as a result- Proche, McCrary, Scott twins, Kearns, Marvis- that's the foundation for a nice class. But then you hear things like Darrell Miller at Cedar Hill not even knowing he's been offered and you just have to slap the table again in disgust


When Jones was hired coming off that high profile year at Hawaii, he had an opportunity to do for SMU what Larry Brown has done, but he didn't hire the staff that could "get it done" for him and the rest is history. After watching what Brown has accomplished, Jones probably realizes that he missed his chance.
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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby East Coast Mustang » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:46 pm

Charleston Pony wrote:
East Coast Mustang wrote:The thing that really chaps my [deleted] is that June could be an awesome recruiter if he just gave a [deleted]. He's got NFL head coaching experience, a lot of ties with NFL coaching staffs, and has a decent track record of getting guys in the league. Plus, from everything I've heard from players who have played under him, he's a really good guy who cares about his players and takes a genuine interest in their personal success off the field. He also does some commendable things in the community that don't get a lot of press, partially because he doesn't really seek out attention (besides the movie!)

I just don't understand why he has such little interest in selling himself and the program to higher caliber recruits- he has a lot to offer as a coach and SMU as a program has a lot of unique things to offer. Hell, we did the "Recruiting Blitz" for two weeks and picked up some solid recruits as a result- Proche, McCrary, Scott twins, Kearns, Marvis- that's the foundation for a nice class. But then you hear things like Darrell Miller at Cedar Hill not even knowing he's been offered and you just have to slap the table again in disgust


When Jones was hired coming off that high profile year at Hawaii, he had an opportunity to do for SMU what Larry Brown has done, but he didn't hire the staff that could "get it done" for him and the rest is history. After watching what Brown has accomplished, Jones probably realizes that he missed his chance.

Maybe so, but it's a lot harder to make the turnaround in football than it is in basketball. When JJ first started here he hired some of the right guys who were aggressive recruiters like Klemm and Reinebold, but they've moved on and now it looks like the only coaches who give a rip about recruiting are Phillips, Daniels, and ODum. Oh well.
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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby blackoutpony » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:11 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:
Charleston Pony wrote:
East Coast Mustang wrote:The thing that really chaps my [deleted] is that June could be an awesome recruiter if he just gave a [deleted]. He's got NFL head coaching experience, a lot of ties with NFL coaching staffs, and has a decent track record of getting guys in the league. Plus, from everything I've heard from players who have played under him, he's a really good guy who cares about his players and takes a genuine interest in their personal success off the field. He also does some commendable things in the community that don't get a lot of press, partially because he doesn't really seek out attention (besides the movie!)

I just don't understand why he has such little interest in selling himself and the program to higher caliber recruits- he has a lot to offer as a coach and SMU as a program has a lot of unique things to offer. Hell, we did the "Recruiting Blitz" for two weeks and picked up some solid recruits as a result- Proche, McCrary, Scott twins, Kearns, Marvis- that's the foundation for a nice class. But then you hear things like Darrell Miller at Cedar Hill not even knowing he's been offered and you just have to slap the table again in disgust


When Jones was hired coming off that high profile year at Hawaii, he had an opportunity to do for SMU what Larry Brown has done, but he didn't hire the staff that could "get it done" for him and the rest is history. After watching what Brown has accomplished, Jones probably realizes that he missed his chance.

Maybe so, but it's a lot harder to make the turnaround in football than it is in basketball. When JJ first started here he hired some of the right guys who were aggressive recruiters like Klemm and Reinebold, but they've moved on and now it looks like the only coaches who give a rip about recruiting are Phillips, Daniels, and ODum. Oh well.


Jerramce moved on to KU after 1 year. Didn't stop Larry from plugging someone else right in and keeping the train moving. You have to make the right hires and not just give a nice landing spot to your lazy old friends.

Larry has done in two years, what June has complained about and has said is impossible for 7 years. Therein lies the difference.
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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby SMUer » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:48 pm

Again, should have checked his comment with SMU and Aresco. Pretty evident that they were not please by June's defeatist public statements.
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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby East Coast Mustang » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:50 pm

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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby ALEX LIFESON » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:21 am

Stallion wrote:Rick Hart just placed that statement in June Jones Termination File

Its becoming increasingly obvious that Rick Hart is exerting a leadership role over Littl' June Jones


No question about it.
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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby PonySnob » Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:44 am

ALEX LIFESON wrote:
Stallion wrote:Rick Hart just placed that statement in June Jones Termination File

Its becoming increasingly obvious that Rick Hart is exerting a leadership role over Littl' June Jones


No question about it.


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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby ponyinNC » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:43 pm

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Re: June Jones statement on 'Group of Five' comments

Postby Mexmustang » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:41 am

Those of you that compare JJ to LB success need a wakeup call.

LB's financial support, from assistant salaries, to access to private jets, to facilities (basketball's is world class--football's doesn't compare with Texas 6A high schools). Basketball doesn't depend on conference affiliation, although the AAC is very good, but not very appreciated. Football is highly dependent upon conference affiliation in terms of recruiting and revenue. Oh, and for the third strait year our football budget has been reduced.

You people need to wakeup, June is not responsible for our being one of the left outs--25years of administration did that! At least he has the balls to throw out an idea whether good or bad, to challenge the P5 and their using us and others as underpaid cannon fodder to make their records qualify them for their major bowls.

Oh, and when he came here, we were ranked dead last amongst these so-called left outs. Not bowl of any kind for 25 years.

What are your ideas? The status quo? Hope we get an invite into a P5 conference? Just like every other member of our New CSUA (AAC)? Aresco has every reason to be scared of the truth.

Fortunately, June has two more seasons and nothing you youngsters can do about it. The people that count see the success an athletic program can have if the support is there and know that football hasn't received the same. Not only would our top donors be in an uproar, but the press would make SMU a laughing stock.

Who are you going to hire after to run June off? And just remember when you makeup or prepare your list that SMU isn't going to pay any assistant coach, never having head coaching experience any where near $2,000,000. Good luck finding the money if our major donors-$20,000,000 and up, opt out.

As far as our current AD is concerned, he has absolutely no authority over June's future. In fact, no one is particularly impressed with an AD that has to balance his budget by scheduling one and done's against the likes of the University of Michigan (you think UT Chattanooga had a chance last year against Alabama in Tuscaloosa?) for a paycheck using our kids, instead of raising the money himself? Rick just what is your idea to stop this train from which schools like SMU will never catch up? The status quo? Please remember the definition of madness, doing same thing over and over, with the same unsatisfactory results! Since the DP all we do is hire and fire coaches and expect results without the necessary commitment and investment.
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