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Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby PonyTime » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:44 pm

Because he was around when this went down...

http://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/3-key-findings-in-chapel-hills-academic-fraud-investigation/88325

I am in the Hire Mack club - but just don't think it will happen...



3 Key Findings in Chapel Hill’s Academic-Fraud Investigation


The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill on Wednesday announced the findings of a long-awaited, independent investigation into academic fraud in its department of African and Afro-American studies. The comprehensive, 136-page report tells a gripping narrative full of new revelations in the prolonged scandal. The findings take aim at a number of people at Chapel Hill who have previously been implicated in the scandal but who have denied any knowledge of or role in the alleged fraud.

Here are the three most important takeaways from the report:

1. A department manager assigned papers, devised grades, and forged signatures. Deborah Crowder masterminded the phony “paper classes,” which masqueraded as lecture courses but never met, and required only that one paper be submitted. Ms. Crowder graded the papers, generally giving students A’s or B’s as long as the papers met the assigned length. Many of the papers were plagiarized but still received high grades. Ms. Crowder ran the system for more than 15 years.

2. The athletics department was in on it. According to the report, more than one in five of the university’s athletes from 1999 to 2011—upwards of 3,000 in total—were enrolled in the paper classes. Many of the athletes were steered to the classes by members of the athletics department’s academic-support staff, who kept a running list of struggling athletes and the grades they needed to stay eligible to play. Advisers even suggested to Ms. Crowder the grades athletes should receive.

When Ms. Crowder announced she would retire, in 2009, the advisers panicked at the imminent threat to their athletes’ eligibility. The associate director of the athletics advising program wrote the following to a staff member: “Ms. Crowder is retiring at the end of July … if the guys papers are not in … I would expect D’s or C’s at best. Most need better than that … ALL WORK FROM THE AFAM DEPT. MUST BE DONE AND TURNED IN ON THE LAST DAY OF CLASS.”

Members of the counseling staff presented this PowerPoint slide to football coaches:

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After Ms. Crowder’s departure, the football team’s GPA fell to its lowest level in 10 years. But counselors did pressure the department’s chairman at the time, Julius Nyang’oro, to continue the fake classes. He complied.

3. Ms. Crowder was the architect, but the tent was much bigger. She was part of a “good old girls” network consisting of women like her across the campus who wanted to help students who were struggling with classes. Included in the network were two academic advisers not affiliated with the athletics department, who sent some students who were having personal problems that were interfering with their studies to Ms. Crowder’s fake courses.

Among the host of people who had some knowledge of the classes’ existence were football players’ academic advisers, a counselor to basketball players (and a member of Coach Roy Williams’s inner circle), other professors in the department, the former football coach Butch Davis, other members of the football staff, and an academic dean. Even advisers for the college’s prestigious Morehead-Cain Scholarship steered students toward the classes, though it’s unclear the extent to which they knew the courses were fraudulent.

One of the most notable cases may be that of Jan M. Boxill, a philosophy professor and director of the Parr Center for Ethics. She was also an academic counselor to women’s basketball players who sent students to Ms. Crowder and suggested the grades they should receive. Ms. Boxill went on to serve as chair of the faculty for three years.

Check back later for more coverage from The Chronicle.
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby Bergermeister » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:53 pm

water under the bridge.........
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby Stallion » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:59 pm

Mack Brown went to UT in 1998. This reports suggests time period of investigation was 1999-forward. Was there some specific indictment of Brown-may have missed it?
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby Rebel10 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:12 pm

Does SMU have a “good old girls” network? Can they start one?
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby StallionsModelT » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:14 pm

Story I'm seeing says some of these programs have been around since 93 which would certainly include Mack Brown.
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby PonyTime » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:15 pm

The Fraud began about the time Mack ARRIVED at UNC...

"The fraud began in 1993 and lasted until 2011. According to the report, AFAM chair Dr. Julius Nyang'oro and his department manager, Deborah Crowder, were responsible for offering hundreds of “irregular” classes that never met and had no faculty involvement. Crowder managed the classes and assigned grades."

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/employee-discipline-expected-after-unc-academic-fraud-report-released/14104255/
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby Rebel10 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:21 pm

PonyTime wrote:The Fraud began about the time Mack ARRIVED at UNC...

"The fraud began in 1993 and lasted until 2011. According to the report, AFAM chair Dr. Julius Nyang'oro and his department manager, Deborah Crowder, were responsible for offering hundreds of “irregular” classes that never met and had no faculty involvement. Crowder managed the classes and assigned grades."

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/employee-discipline-expected-after-unc-academic-fraud-report-released/14104255/

No wonder Mack was able to get better athletes. I say bring him to SMU now and let him talk to the head of the history department immediately.
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby smumustang1980 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:25 pm

Interesting theory. If Mack accepts SMU's offer, don't be surprised.
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby StallionsModelT » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:33 pm

smumustang1980 wrote:Interesting theory. If Mack accepts SMU's offer, don't be surprised.


Do you know something we don't? I spoke to a pretty connected friend at a wedding this weekend that said Mack Brown is the frontrunner.
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby Big12Mustang » Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:48 pm

Rebel10 wrote:Does SMU have a “good old girls” network? Can they start one?


Judging from how we have recruited...no.
Can we start one? Yes.
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby SMU 86 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:16 pm

Big12Mustang wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:Does SMU have a “good old girls” network? Can they start one?


Judging from how we have recruited...no.
Can we start one? Yes.

BTM are you talking about a good ole girls network to help with grades or are you talking about something else.
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby Pony ^ » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:34 pm

maybe SMU needs to start a program like that...clearly nothing else is working
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby Big12Mustang » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:41 pm

SMU 86 wrote:
Big12Mustang wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:Does SMU have a “good old girls” network? Can they start one?


Judging from how we have recruited...no.
Can we start one? Yes.

BTM are you talking about a good ole girls network to help with grades or are you talking about something else.


A "hostess" program. OSU was running something similar up there AND they took some cues from what we used to do down here back in the good 'ole days. But hey, it made them into the OSU they are today!

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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby PonyKai » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:47 pm

I vaguely sort of remember the NCAA snooping around both UCLA and Kansas after Mr. Brown departed. Yet here he sits. Also, didn't June tank our APR score over the years? Yet he was persona welcome until, well, he burned the house down.
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Re: Why Turner will never hire Mack Brown

Postby SMU 86 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:06 pm

Big12Mustang wrote: A "hostess" program. OSU was running something similar up there AND they took some cues from what we used to do down here back in the good 'ole days. But hey, it made them into the OSU they are today!

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I believe the article regarding Mack Brown was talking about a network that helps with grades.
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