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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby RGV Pony » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:15 pm

Just to be sure we are still 0-2014, haven't led, and are holding onto that point deficit record right?
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby mrydel » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:16 pm

And are the only winless FBS team.
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:20 pm

Stallion wrote:You are just being silly. The act of an employee who is not an official officer of a corporate entity is not binding on a corporation. In this case a recommendation by an employee was ratified by the governing management. You got this yet? This has absolutely nothing to do with the performance on the field.


Seems like he might be trying to deflect the blame of the performance on the field away from bad recruiting since he was one of the ones saying that we had more talent than everyone thought.
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby PlanoStang » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:33 pm

Stallion wrote:The entire thread is stupid. Who cares. 100% of knowledgeable SMU fans would presume Mason would be the successor. He was "Associate Head Coach". He wants to be called Associate Head Coach then he shouldn't [deleted] about replacing Head Coach who quit. I think less of Tom Mason because apparently he had to be persuaded not to Cut n Run himself. Stand up to your duties as next in line. Who else would take over from the Hawaiian Quitter


I have never heard he was anything other than DC.

Even if he was associate HC, doesn't mean he has to accept being HC.

Being named HC in public without his acceptance, and permission is MAJOR LEAGUE lawsuit
material :!:

I'm thinking he has a guaranteed position as at least an LB coach or something for about 3 years
on the new staff :!:
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:37 pm

PlanoStang wrote:
Stallion wrote:The entire thread is stupid. Who cares. 100% of knowledgeable SMU fans would presume Mason would be the successor. He was "Associate Head Coach". He wants to be called Associate Head Coach then he shouldn't [deleted] about replacing Head Coach who quit. I think less of Tom Mason because apparently he had to be persuaded not to Cut n Run himself. Stand up to your duties as next in line. Who else would take over from the Hawaiian Quitter


I have never heard he was anything other than DC.

Even if he was associate HC, doesn't mean he has to accept being HC.

Being named HC in public without his acceptace, and permission is MAJOR LEAGUE lawsuit
material :!:

I'm thinking he has a guaranteed position as at least an LB coach or something for about 3 years
on the new staff :!:


So if he did not want to be head coach why was he telling people that he wanted to be permanent head coach and thought the would get considered for it if he could win 6 or 7 games and get to a bowl? Also, it is not a good idea to force a coach on a new staff.
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby Stallion » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:38 pm

No. 1-You weren't paying attention
No. 2- There is 0% chance of a successful lawsuit because he agreed to the contract which defines the terms of his contract. If not expressly stated then he is an employee at will meaning he can get fired without cause at any time or at most under the terms of his contract as associate Head Coach which expires in the spring
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby PlanoStang » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:51 pm

You don't know what his contract said. Mason has the right to resign, and refuse the job before
its announced in public implying he accepted :!:
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:00 pm

PlanoStang wrote:You don't know what his contract said. Mason has the right to resign, and refuse the job before
its announced in public implying he accepted :!:

Well from the looks of it if he does not want to coach the team then he will probably get his wish in a few weeks.
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby Stallion » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:00 pm

But he didn't. Two scenarios

1) refused to accept Head Coach position-there is no contract only an offer. acceptance is required element of a binding contract
2) he agreed to the contract. If written it would define terms of his contract. If oral for an indefinite term then he would be an employee at will until it was reduced to a contract or perhaps arguably until his present contract expired this spring. A 3 year oral contract would violate the Statute of Frauds unless they got him to accept based upon an unperformed promise to reduce that oral agreement to writing in the future which they failed to do. They didn't make that promise as we all know because they have publically stated that they are looking for a new coach from Day 1-which Mason has acknowledged-he has no lawsuit.
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby PlanoStang » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:17 pm

Stallion wrote:But he didn't. Two scenarios

1) refused to accept Head Coach position-there is no contract only an offer. acceptance is required element of a binding contract
2) he agreed to the contract. If written it would define terms of his contract. If oral for an indefinite term then he would be an employee at will until it was reduced to a contract or perhaps arguably until his present contract expired this spring. A 3 year oral contract would violate the Statute of Frauds unless they got him to accept based upon an unperformed promise to reduce that oral agreement to writing in the future which they failed to do. They didn't make that promise as we all know because they have publically stated that they are looking for a new coach from Day 1-which Mason has acknowledged-he has no lawsuit.


Anounced acceptance to the public before actual acceptance. Libel, slander or all of the
above.

Sorry, I've had about 4001 compliance, and ethics courses.
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby Stallion » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:22 pm

Libel or slander or all the above-yeah you're an expert

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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby PlanoStang » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:31 pm

Irrepairable damage was done to Mason's reputation if it was announced that he accepted, and
he didn't.

Oh yeah, I had 2 B-law courses at SMU before the thousands of ethics courses. 8)

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supervisors take their financial well being into extreme danger if they give a negative opinion of
a former employee to a recruiter.
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby SMUer » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:37 pm

We teach 1000 ethics courses!?! As a philosophy bachelor, that's news to me!
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby Stallion » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:40 pm

OK now I'm having fun

what were the false statements made by SMU that defamed the reputation or character of Coach Mason?

that he was qualified to be appointed head Coach? Its neither false or defamatory-two essential elements to a defamation claim
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Re: How Mason was named coach

Postby couch 'em » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:45 pm

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