why won't hart and/or Turner

[vielsiehorsepower]

Make a public statement debunking the statements made by [deleted] clown Jones and his jock strap carrier, Dickerson? It's so maddening to see them take it lying down. How much more beneficial is it to 1. Stop the June propaganda machine and 2. Make you look like a bamf who isn't going to take cr ap from anyone.

Knock it out in 5 minutes

"The allegations coach jones has made regarding smu's level of commitment to it's athletics are false. In addition to being the highest paid g5 coach in the country, every plausible accommodation sought by coach jones has been met:
Moving stadium lights in a 1 week time frame at coach jones' whim; lowering academic requirements to mirror those of top d1a programs, implmented on mm/dd/yy; providing an abundance of resources to improve the chances of academic success, including near full time availability of tutors, and adding athletic friendly majors (as requested by coach jones) implmented on mm/dd/yy and mm/dd/yy, respectively.

The standards for performance at smu are high and there are no excuses when regional schools with far fewer resources achieve far more.
While we appreciate what coach jones has done for our university, four consecutive bowl games (an smu record) and jump starting life back Into our program, we feel it is in the best interest of the university, it's students, boosters, alumni and fan base to head another direction.




Is it asking for the world to not want them to act like they don't have any b a l l s. Besides if you really want to get back at the pos, this will eliminate any and all chances of him being a hc.

[mrydel]

Just let his own rope keep hanging himself.

[Stallion]

Hart already responded to Dickerson's comments. Give him some time before you jump on his [deleted]. I'd expect another response to June's statements too. See below:

"There appears to be some misinformation in the marketplace. Misconceptions harm our reputation and, potentially, deter top candidates from considering SMU. In particular, there are "reports" that SMU is not committed to strengthening its support of its championship athletics program. This claim is not supported by facts.

I came to SMU, in part, because university leadership is committed to competing at the highest level. I don't think our coaches or student-athletes would be interested in anything less than that, either. In athletics, we keep score. We want to win. Significant investments have been made in support of athletics at SMU. Some examples include, but are not limited to: competitive compensation for coaches, facility enhancements, expanded academic support services and degree programs and increased institutional financial support. These investments reflect the position that athletics is a valued component of the SMU experience.

As Dr. Turner stated this week, "As a university, SMU is fully committed to football success at the highest level. We value excellence on the fields of athletic competition as well as in the classroom. Football is an integral part of our unique campus experience and is a rallying point for the University community, alumni and fans. We are proud of our past successes and are confident in the future success of SMU football."

Furthermore, as the landscape was shifting in 2012-13, SMU took a leadership role in shaping the future of Division I athletics and ensuring SMU was positioned for continued growth and success in the American Athletic Conference. When the NCAA meal legislation took effect in August 2014, SMU was among the first to offer a supplemental meal plan for all student-athletes and student managers; and the plan we installed is viewed as a model in Division I athletics. Now, as we enter this period of unprecedented NCAA governance reform, SMU has again assumed a position of leadership, expressing our intention to provide additional benefits aimed at enhancing student-athlete well-being, such as full cost of attendance.

As Shakespeare said, "What's past is prologue." It is time to promote and celebrate the advancements we have made on and off the field of play. The value of an SMU education, the beautiful college setting, access to the top faculty, coaches and support personnel, championship-caliber facilities, vibrant campus life (residential commons/dining halls), membership in the American, national visibility on ESPN/CBS and our location in Dallas offer a quality-of-life unmatched elsewhere. That said, as with all leadership changes, we will take full advantage of this opportunity to validate and, as appropriate, refine our existing structures to identify opportunities to strengthen our competitiveness.

Finally, purchase tickets and attend our games. If I can tell prospective coaches that our fans showed us great support this season, it matters. Attendance is a reflection of the commitment from the community. It shows the coach - and recruits - that football at SMU is important and that they will be supported. With nearly twice as many on-campus residents, we are hoping the students will lead the way. Taking a wait-and-see approach will not help. We need to demonstrate our support now.

As I stated earlier, our vision is to establish SMU as the best program in the American Athletic Conference. This is not a limiting goal. Being the best in our conference is a necessary step to competing in the postseason, attaining a national ranking and pursing championship opportunities. As we pursue this vision, we will remain aligned with the educational mission of the institution, operate with integrity and maintain a focus on the health, safety and well-being of our student-athletes. This is what great programs do, and we will be a great program!

Getting back to the coaching search process, we don't have time to burn, but we do have time to be thoughtful and creative. Within the next two weeks, we will likely engage a search firm and confirm the role of the search committee. While we want to be inclusive, we must also be nimble and ensure confidentiality, or we will not be successful in attracting top candidates. Many of the individuals we may wish to speak with will not be available until the end of the regular season - as early as Thanksgiving or as late as conference championship games. In the meantime, we will use this time to our advantage to be prepared to act decisively at the appropriate moment. President Turner and I will make the hiring decision, with input and approval from a broader group.

In addition to the football game on Saturday, it is a big weekend on the Hilltop. On Friday, men's soccer takes on Oral Roberts at Westcott Field at 5 p.m. and volleyball takes on College of Charleston at Moody Coliseum at 7 p.m. At 7:30 p.m., Friday Night Stampede commences on Mustang Mall, featuring a concert by the Mustang Band and a Pep Rally. The evening's celebrations will conclude with the ceremonial lighting of the cupolas of Armstrong Commons and the Laura Lee Blanton Building. I hope you will join us.

Remember, you have an important role to play - be educated, be positive and be here. We have made several improvements to the game day experience and have posted all the important game day information here. Please let us know if you have additional suggestions. See you this weekend!

Go Mustangs and Pony Up!
Rick Hart
Director of Athletics

[vielsiehorsepower]

Hart already responded to Dickerson's comments. Give him some time before you jump on his [deleted]. I'd expect another response to June's statements too

IIRC his response was typical vague "we are committed to success at smu."

If you've got the evidence that some disgruntled con man is spreading disparaging lies at such a crucial time, you need to publicize it. Now everyone thinks "man that school needs to get it together, JUNE JONES couldn't even win there*

[vielsiehorsepower]

Hart already responded to Dickerson's comments. Give him some time before you jump on his [deleted]. I'd expect another response to June's statements too. See below:

"There appears to be some misinformation in the marketplace. Misconceptions harm our reputation and, potentially, deter top candidates from considering SMU. In particular, there are "reports" that SMU is not committed to strengthening its support of its championship athletics program. This claim is not supported by facts.

I came to SMU, in part, because university leadership is committed to competing at the highest level. I don't think our coaches or student-athletes would be interested in anything less than that, either. In athletics, we keep score. We want to win. Significant investments have been made in support of athletics at SMU. Some examples include, but are not limited to: competitive compensation for coaches, facility enhancements, expanded academic support services and degree programs and increased institutional financial support. These investments reflect the position that athletics is a valued component of the SMU experience.

As Dr. Turner stated this week, "As a university, SMU is fully committed to football success at the highest level. We value excellence on the fields of athletic competition as well as in the classroom. Football is an integral part of our unique campus experience and is a rallying point for the University community, alumni and fans. We are proud of our past successes and are confident in the future success of SMU football."

Furthermore, as the landscape was shifting in 2012-13, SMU took a leadership role in shaping the future of Division I athletics and ensuring SMU was positioned for continued growth and success in the American Athletic Conference. When the NCAA meal legislation took effect in August 2014, SMU was among the first to offer a supplemental meal plan for all student-athletes and student managers; and the plan we installed is viewed as a model in Division I athletics. Now, as we enter this period of unprecedented NCAA governance reform, SMU has again assumed a position of leadership, expressing our intention to provide additional benefits aimed at enhancing student-athlete well-being, such as full cost of attendance.

As Shakespeare said, "What's past is prologue." It is time to promote and celebrate the advancements we have made on and off the field of play. The value of an SMU education, the beautiful college setting, access to the top faculty, coaches and support personnel, championship-caliber facilities, vibrant campus life (residential commons/dining halls), membership in the American, national visibility on ESPN/CBS and our location in Dallas offer a quality-of-life unmatched elsewhere. That said, as with all leadership changes, we will take full advantage of this opportunity to validate and, as appropriate, refine our existing structures to identify opportunities to strengthen our competitiveness.

Finally, purchase tickets and attend our games. If I can tell prospective coaches that our fans showed us great support this season, it matters. Attendance is a reflection of the commitment from the community. It shows the coach - and recruits - that football at SMU is important and that they will be supported. With nearly twice as many on-campus residents, we are hoping the students will lead the way. Taking a wait-and-see approach will not help. We need to demonstrate our support now.

As I stated earlier, our vision is to establish SMU as the best program in the American Athletic Conference. This is not a limiting goal. Being the best in our conference is a necessary step to competing in the postseason, attaining a national ranking and pursing championship opportunities. As we pursue this vision, we will remain aligned with the educational mission of the institution, operate with integrity and maintain a focus on the health, safety and well-being of our student-athletes. This is what great programs do, and we will be a great program!

Getting back to the coaching search process, we don't have time to burn, but we do have time to be thoughtful and creative. Within the next two weeks, we will likely engage a search firm and confirm the role of the search committee. While we want to be inclusive, we must also be nimble and ensure confidentiality, or we will not be successful in attracting top candidates. Many of the individuals we may wish to speak with will not be available until the end of the regular season - as early as Thanksgiving or as late as conference championship games. In the meantime, we will use this time to our advantage to be prepared to act decisively at the appropriate moment. President Turner and I will make the hiring decision, with input and approval from a broader group.

In addition to the football game on Saturday, it is a big weekend on the Hilltop. On Friday, men's soccer takes on Oral Roberts at Westcott Field at 5 p.m. and volleyball takes on College of Charleston at Moody Coliseum at 7 p.m. At 7:30 p.m., Friday Night Stampede commences on Mustang Mall, featuring a concert by the Mustang Band and a Pep Rally. The evening's celebrations will conclude with the ceremonial lighting of the cupolas of Armstrong Commons and the Laura Lee Blanton Building. I hope you will join us.

Remember, you have an important role to play - be educated, be positive and be here. We have made several improvements to the game day experience and have posted all the important game day information here. Please let us know if you have additional suggestions. See you this weekend!

Go Mustangs and Pony Up!
Rick Hart
Director of Athletics

Well then, my mistake. I only saw a few paragraphs beforehand that were misleading out of context.

[vielsiehorsepower]

Perhaps he should have found a more head line breaking, but technically not politically incorrect way of presenting this. Because obviously it did little to nothing, people are still listening to juneses

[couch 'em]

It would be cathartic to go on a media rampage but it would not help our situation. Coaching candidates will know the reality of the situation. The public will find out when wins come, just like basketball

[sbsmith]

Perhaps he should have found a more head line breaking, but technically not politically incorrect way of presenting this. Because obviously it did little to nothing, people are still listening to juneses

People are listening to June because he's beloved in the CFB world. If he says that SMU's football commitment is lacking then SMU's football commitment is lacking, the truth be damned.

[footballdad]

Simply release the first 5 paragraphs to the media. It directly counters everything June has or will continue to spout.

[NavyCrimson]

Needn't worry.

Once any school, who decides to consider JJ for employment, finds out about the true facts of his tenure on the Hilltop, he'll still be looking for that elusive job.

[1983 Cotton Bowl]

June Jones is finished. Forget about June. It would not be constructive for Hart, to say nothing of Turner, to engage in a public tit-for-tat with June. The response that Hart published (which Stallion quoted) is entirely appropriate. Calling out June or, even worse, Eric Dickerson, by name would portray SMU in a very petty and poor light. Hardly something potential coaching candidates, players, alumni, etc. would want to see. The best way for the school to counter June's spin is in private, by presenting facts to the candidates. Now that's not to say that people like us shouldn't challenge the "perception". After all, twitter gives everyone a public voice.

At this point, June is trying to publically rehabilitate his image so he can get another job. That is patently obvious to anyone with any knowledge of the situation. SMU may be a "tough gig" as he puts it, but that doesn't come anywhere close to explaining the deterioration of the football product over the past 3 years under June. If its such a tough gig that June ended up with arguably the worst D-1A college football team in history, then how exactly did he go to 4 straight bowls on the backs of players who were recruited by the previous coach? If it's such a "tough gig", then how did LB take the BB program to where it is now in such a short time? June is full of crap. . .more importantly, he is done as a big time college or pro football coach. Maybe he gets the Portland State gig, but that's about it.

[Stallion]

another illusion is that June has been making all these big changes inside the administration when in reality the changes were made as an inducement for him to take the job in the first place. What happened to all those important changes? How come June's record got worse as his recruiting classes (under the alleged changes June allegedly won from the administration) came into effect? That was all a bunch of crap other than minor tinkering here and there.

[LA_Mustang]

June Jones is finished. Forget about June.

Isn't that exactly what JJ wants? It's the last step of his perfect Houdini act. He got paid and had no accountability. SMU was the perfect job for him. He milked it for as long as he could and now he can enjoy all that SMU money in Hawaii. He knew this fan base and university would have that exact attitude - he's gone so let's move on. Hell, he even made it look like he left on his terms. The guy must be a genius. If any reporters come asking about SMU he's going to say that it's a tough job, academics are too tough, the support isn't there, and whatever else bs comes to his mind. Most everyone outside of the SMU family will believe him. He'll lay low for a while and he might give it another go but good luck finding another SMU.

[SMU Football Blog]

another illusion is that June has been making all these big changes inside the administration when in reality the changes were made as an inducement for him to take the job in the first place. What happened to all those important changes? How come June's record got worse as his recruiting classes (under the alleged changes June allegedly won from the administration) came into effect? That was all a bunch of crap other than minor tinkering here and there.

This is true. Some people on here forget that others on this board have been following this and talking about this for more than 10 years.

If you can scrounge up the November 13, 2003 DMN, you can read all these quotes from coaches about how hard it is to win at SMU. One of the coaches quoted... Is June Jones. Jones was very aware of the job during his entire college coaching career. He knew what was in place in 2003 and he knew what was in place when he took the job. Fact is, he would not have taken the job if there were any legitimate impediments to winning.

In fact, if you go back and look at Bennett's press conference when he was fired, he talks about challenges, but he never says what they are. The reason is Bennett knew then the impediments were already gone. The best evidence of that was his players getting SMU to the Hawaii Bowl.

June, also, is just saying a variation of the same BS he said when he left Hawaii. Go back and read it. June was wronged by Hawaii in oh so many ways. Plus, he gets the added benefit of knowing the paper will print it because, well, the paper has been printing the same crap about SMU for 20 years.

[gostangs]

beloved in CFB circles? I think not. Outside of Hawaii, oregon and North texas nobody has every heard of him, and people in no. texas are forgetting pretty fast.

I predict he gets a lower level head coach job in the west coast - like on of those california directional schools.