Attendance

by **PonyFan32** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:57 am

Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:Have you all saved old posts on subjects like these? Then when we recycle them every 90 days, you can just ctrl + v and save a ton of time.

That's what I call winning a thread. :lol:

by **NewAgeMustange** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:31 am

Thought that y'all would appreciate this one.

I was in class last night, ~70 people while there are only 2 of us that are SMU alumns. For some reason the professor started talking about southlake carroll football and we got off on college teams. I said something about SMU football and being excited . . yada yada yada... the amount of people that started talking about SMU and being "eternally hopeful and rooting for them" was very very surprising, many physicians and executives within the UTSW system.

Basically untapped potential when we start to win.

by **WordUpBU** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:52 am

skyscraper wrote:Honestly I'd be happy if the season ticket holders just showed up all season. By the middle to end of last year even the west side was pretty empty for games. We have to start knocking off some big names to get the casual fan to show up.

How many season tickets have been sold this year or in the last few years? What's the high or low?

by **Stallion** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:15 am

kind of hard to tell because we've been leveraging Texas A&M, Texas Tech and TCU games to sell mini-packages that they apparently count as season ticket package. Just from experience and knowledge of the stadium and actual butts in seats I think real season tickets have dropped from about 10,000 to probably 8,500 due to the June Jones effect. But I'm sure SMU would claim 12,000-12,500 or so. We hover at about 15,000 for conference games with actual attendance below that. Interesting that in 2013 in game against UCF in near zero temperatures with thick coats of ice they announced 12,500 or so when there was probably 1,000 in attendance. SMU AD says they count tickets distributed not paid attendance so that game gives you a pretty good indicator of the ceiling on season tickets-generally a school will distribute some freebies that pad even those low numbers

by **Pony Boss** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:46 am

Not many people went to that UCF game for obvious safety reasons.

by **Stallion** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:50 am

that wasn't the point-the point is that since nobody went and a terrible storm had been predicted for days it gives you a good picture of the baseline numbers on season tickets (with understanding that you would have to also discount for freebies for tickets distributed which can be in the thousands). So for 2013 I would guess season tickets sales at between 10,000-11,000.

by **WordUpBU** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:58 pm

Stallion wrote:that wasn't the point-the point is that since nobody went and a terrible storm had been predicted for days it gives you a good picture of the baseline numbers on season tickets (with understanding that you would have to also discount for freebies for tickets distributed which can be in the thousands). So for 2013 I would guess season tickets sales at between 10,000-11,000.

Definitely makes sense to use that as a guess. Tickets distributed number clearly higher than attendance that day with few if any walk up fans = likely season ticket range.

by **Pony Boss** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:16 pm

Stallion wrote:that wasn't the point-the point is that since nobody went and a terrible storm had been predicted for days it gives you a good picture of the baseline numbers on season tickets (with understanding that you would have to also discount for freebies for tickets distributed which can be in the thousands). So for 2013 I would guess season tickets sales at between 10,000-11,000.

Makes sense.

by **JasonB** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:52 pm

CalallenStang wrote:
JasonB wrote:10 win seasons and a top 25 ranking are what attract fans. Students or non-students. Period. Win and become relevant and people come. They will pack the house when we play someone good and it will be 75% full when we are playing the sisters of the poor. Win win win.

Tradition is what keeps people coming when you are .500 or worse. We have no tradition to anyone under the age of 50.

Tradition takes time to build. If SMU has a bad basketball season in the next two years, Moody will empty. 10 straight years of good basketball and you will establish a new tradition that can bring back the old and make us consistently relevant.

Cincy is a great example. They won back in the day with Oscar Robertson, and had a great tradition. Then disappeared for a long time. They are just now getting to the point where they are recognized as a consistent winner again and might be able to survive a couple of losing seasons in their basketball stadium.

Start winning and give it some time.

The Huggins era in Cincy being glossed over as part of "disappeared for a long time" is an interesting choice

Ummm, I was referring to prior to that. They were good, came back for a couple of years in the 70s, and then completely fell off the map until Huggins showed up in the early 90s. They weren't really taken seriously as a basketball power until 10 years into Huggins' regime.

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by **CalallenStang** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:51 am

JasonB wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:
JasonB wrote:10 win seasons and a top 25 ranking are what attract fans. Students or non-students. Period. Win and become relevant and people come. They will pack the house when we play someone good and it will be 75% full when we are playing the sisters of the poor. Win win win.

Tradition is what keeps people coming when you are .500 or worse. We have no tradition to anyone under the age of 50.

Tradition takes time to build. If SMU has a bad basketball season in the next two years, Moody will empty. 10 straight years of good basketball and you will establish a new tradition that can bring back the old and make us consistently relevant.

Cincy is a great example. They won back in the day with Oscar Robertson, and had a great tradition. Then disappeared for a long time. They are just now getting to the point where they are recognized as a consistent winner again and might be able to survive a couple of losing seasons in their basketball stadium.

Start winning and give it some time.

The Huggins era in Cincy being glossed over as part of "disappeared for a long time" is an interesting choice

Ummm, I was referring to prior to that. They were good, came back for a couple of years in the 70s, and then completely fell off the map until Huggins showed up in the early 90s. They weren't really taken seriously as a basketball power until 10 years into Huggins' regime.

NCAA Tournament appearances
1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1966, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015

10 years into the Huggins regime = 1999-2000 season.

Just now = 1999-2000?

by **smupony94** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:30 am

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com ... game.html/

by **Pony Boss** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:12 pm

smupony94 wrote:http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/2015/04/smu-football-draws-good-sized-crowd-for-final-scrimmage-ahead-of-spring-game.html/

Nice! 1,000 for practice a week before the spring game, wow!

by **ponyscott** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:15 pm

I'll bet twice that next Saturday ...2,000.

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