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PonySnob wrote:

footballdad wrote:

mrydel wrote:Hart told me point blank in front of many that we were ready to go with the IPF whenever we could come up with the money but we had a long way to go. This was very shortly after Chad was hired. I have no evidence of what he said to Chad but I cannot believe he would have told him otherwise while openly saying the opposite in public.

It's pretty clear what happened. Hart told Morris loudly 'they were ready to go with the IPF', and quietly followed up with 'whenever we could come up with money.' Morris, in all his new excitement, selectively chose to hear what he wanted to hear (his IPF was right around the corner), while also assuming a 'rich' school like SMU could certainly come up with the $ quickly.

There were many instances of recruits/last years commits, discussing this on social media, and also in some interviews with the Rivals & Scout guys if I recall correctly. Morris was selling it hard, and now, crickets.

Doesn't really matter at this point. We'll see where the chips fall with all these P5 openings, in a few weeks. Morris will likely be gone before a shovel is ever put in the ground.

Is what it is.

How much longer is your son here?


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PonySnob wrote:

footballdad wrote:

mrydel wrote:Hart told me point blank in front of many that we were ready to go with the IPF whenever we could come up with the money but we had a long way to go. This was very shortly after Chad was hired. I have no evidence of what he said to Chad but I cannot believe he would have told him otherwise while openly saying the opposite in public.

It's pretty clear what happened. Hart told Morris loudly 'they were ready to go with the IPF', and quietly followed up with 'whenever we could come up with money.' Morris, in all his new excitement, selectively chose to hear what he wanted to hear (his IPF was right around the corner), while also assuming a 'rich' school like SMU could certainly come up with the $ quickly.

There were many instances of recruits/last years commits, discussing this on social media, and also in some interviews with the Rivals & Scout guys if I recall correctly. Morris was selling it hard, and now, crickets.

Doesn't really matter at this point. We'll see where the chips fall with all these P5 openings, in a few weeks. Morris will likely be gone before a shovel is ever put in the ground.

Is what it is.

How much longer is your son here?


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SoCal_Pony wrote:

Pony Boss wrote:

footballdad wrote:The Chad factor seems to have provided exactlly zero extra enthusiasm for the program, outside of the 1500 and some talking heads.

This year we had an exciting new coach, a better team, golf cart rides, better weather, and better start times.......yet no improvement in butts in seats.

Not sure I agree with those that say he knew exactly what he was getting into. Only time will tell, but he doesn't seem like a 'patient' guy.

You are a proven moron. I feel bad for your kid that has to deal with you, being an embarrassment and all.

I understand your dislike for footballdad, but that doesn't change the fact that fundamentally what he said is correct.

We have well-documented, chronic attendance issues. Love the enthusiasm of golf cart rides. This problem is bigger than that. If we don't have some sort of marketing plan in place next year, especially against Liberty, Memphis and USF, we are bound to have skimpy crowds which undoubtedly influence Chad's commitment to SMU when other schools start inquiring, and we all know they will.

I'll add these 2 other points.

If it's true what I read that coach Mason was first notified that he was the new interim HC at the same time his players were reflects poorly on Hart and Turner.

To say we are going to construct an IPF and then retract said assurances because you are 'surprised' by the price tag reflects poorly on Hart and Turner.

I wonder if these two are adverse to confrontation and delivering bad news.

smupony94 wrote:SMU needs to win back my friends. They were in town the same night as the Tulsa game but didn't even know the game was happening. Met for drinks before the game and then they went to dinner instead of with me to the game. Part of the school is named for them. They feel no connection to the school anymore.

PerunasHoof wrote:

smupony94 wrote:SMU needs to win back my friends. They were in town the same night as the Tulsa game but didn't even know the game was happening. Met for drinks before the game and then they went to dinner instead of with me to the game. Part of the school is named for them. They feel no connection to the school anymore.

How do you not know there is a football game on Saturday? That's not ambivalence towards SMU...that's ambivalence towards fall. Part of the school is named for them?? One of the fountains they got arrested by after falling into?

I'm all for fair weathered fans...we need all we can get...and that's apparently what it will take for your friends.

smupony94 wrote:

PerunasHoof wrote:

smupony94 wrote:SMU needs to win back my friends. They were in town the same night as the Tulsa game but didn't even know the game was happening. Met for drinks before the game and then they went to dinner instead of with me to the game. Part of the school is named for them. They feel no connection to the school anymore.

How do you not know there is a football game on Saturday? That's not ambivalence towards SMU...that's ambivalence towards fall. Part of the school is named for them?? One of the fountains they got arrested by after falling into?

I'm all for fair weathered fans...we need all we can get...and that's apparently what it will take for your friends.

we have 20 years of SMU fans we have lost and letting Tim McMurray leave set us back further. Not everyone reads Twitter. Tim called the fans to get them there. Hart doesn't care about the average fan his bosses are the major donors

Pony Boss wrote:

SoCal_Pony wrote:

footballdad wrote:The Chad factor seems to have provided exactlly zero extra enthusiasm for the program, outside of the 1500 and some talking heads.

This year we had an exciting new coach, a better team, golf cart rides, better weather, and better start times.......yet no improvement in butts in seats.

Not sure I agree with those that say he knew exactly what he was getting into. Only time will tell, but he doesn't seem like a 'patient' guy.

I understand your dislike for footballdad, but that doesn't change the fact that fundamentally what he said is correct.

We have well-documented, chronic attendance issues. Love the enthusiasm of golf cart rides. This problem is bigger than that. If we don't have some sort of marketing plan in place next year, especially against Liberty, Memphis and USF, we are bound to have skimpy crowds which undoubtedly influence Chad's commitment to SMU when other schools start inquiring, and we all know they will.

I'll add these 2 other points.

If it's true what I read that coach Mason was first notified that he was the new interim HC at the same time his players were reflects poorly on Hart and Turner.

To say we are going to construct an IPF and then retract said assurances because you are 'surprised' by the price tag reflects poorly on Hart and Turner.

I wonder if these two are adverse to confrontation and delivering bad news.

Attendance issues stem from lack of quality wins and 30 years of consistently losing.

SoCal_Pony wrote:
BTW, I also attended SMU - Rice, 1979. SMU hadn't had a winning season in 4 years. It was Mustang Mania and the game was played at Texas Stadium. Attendance was over 50,000.

StallionsModelT wrote:College football is about 150000000 times more visible in 2015 than it was in 1981. Comparing attendance figures between the two eras is beyond stupid.