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Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:45 pm
by PonyPride
The former Republican House Member from Dallas and candidate for TX Attorney General — and a graduate of SMU's law school — is throwing his support behind SMU getting into Big 12:

Dan Branch
@TexansForDan

@Big12Conference expansion needs to include @SMUMustangs and @UHouston. Don't let other conf's raid TX!

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:57 pm
by biffula
Yawn. Who?

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:08 am
by AustinPerson
Yeah, that will really put us over the top - yah, Dan Branch.

Let's wait until the Park Cities People editorial page endorses us - that's what we need.

SMU people generally aren't from Texas. They don't care about SMU sports. When it's Labor Day weekend and we're playing Baylor or Tech, they're going to go on a luxurious vacation like Donald Trump and his SMU communications director - they're not going to an SMU game. Our people don't care.

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:15 pm
by Pony Boss
AustinPerson wrote:Yeah, that will really put us over the top - yah, Dan Branch.

Let's wait until the Park Cities People editorial page endorses us - that's what we need.

SMU people generally aren't from Texas. They don't care about SMU sports. When it's Labor Day weekend and we're playing Baylor or Tech, they're going to go on a luxurious vacation like Donald Trump and his SMU communications director - they're not going to an SMU game. Our people don't care.


Lol you just wanted to throw the donald into this

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:20 pm
by Pony Boss
Just for your info, TCU's class of 2017 has less than 50% of their students from Texas. That's identical to SMU. Argument shut down....again.

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:20 pm
by Pony Boss
TCU Texas students are around 45% to be exact while SMU is at 50%

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:33 pm
by smusportspage
AustinPerson wrote:Yeah, that will really put us over the top - yah, Dan Branch.

Let's wait until the Park Cities People editorial page endorses us - that's what we need.

SMU people generally aren't from Texas. They don't care about SMU sports. When it's Labor Day weekend and we're playing Baylor or Tech, they're going to go on a luxurious vacation like Donald Trump and his SMU communications director - they're not going to an SMU game. Our people don't care.

Stop drinking that Austin Koolaid! You must be young or have dementia if you don't think that politicians don't play a role in such decisions. Baylor is in the Big XII because of politicians.

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:37 pm
by Pony^
Pony Boss wrote:TCU Texas students are around 45% to be exact while SMU is at 50%


I don't know where you are getting your stats. In 2015, SMU reported 2,760 undergraduates from Texas out of 6,411 total undergraduate students or 43.05%. If you look at the first year class, SMU reports 508 Texans out of a total first year class of 1,374, or 36.97%. Actually, the percentage of out-of-state students in the first year class has been increasing every year.

https://www.smu.edu/Provost/IR/Statistics/FactSheets/Fall2015Facts/origin_undergrad_and_first-year_2015

https://www.smu.edu/Provost/IR/Statistics/FactSheets/Fall2015Facts/StudentEnrollment2015

https://www.smu.edu/Provost/IR/Statistics/FactSheets/Fall2015Facts/entering_first_year_2015

It would not surprise me if SMU had a higher percentage of out-of-state students than any other university in Texas.

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:42 pm
by Pony^
smusportspage wrote:Stop drinking that Austin Koolaid! You must be young or have dementia if you don't think that politicians don't play a role in such decisions. Baylor is in the Big XII because of politicians.


Then maybe SMU ought to get W involved.

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:45 pm
by smusportspage
Who says that they haven't?

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:47 pm
by Pony^
smusportspage wrote:Who says that they haven't?


Not me.

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:05 pm
by Pony^
smusportspage wrote:Stop drinking that Austin Koolaid! You must be young or have dementia if you don't think that politicians don't play a role in such decisions. Baylor is in the Big XII because of politicians.


Probably Texas Tech as well.

http://www.vivathematadors.com/2016/7/21/12252716/will-texas-politics-determine-big-12-expansion

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:07 pm
by Pony Boss
Pony^ wrote:
Pony Boss wrote:TCU Texas students are around 45% to be exact while SMU is at 50%


I don't know where you are getting your stats. In 2015, SMU reported 2,760 undergraduates from Texas out of 6,411 total undergraduate students or 43.05%. If you look at the first year class, SMU reports 508 Texans out of a total first year class of 1,374, or 36.97%. Actually, the percentage of out-of-state students in the first year class has been increasing every year.

https://www.smu.edu/Provost/IR/Statistics/FactSheets/Fall2015Facts/origin_undergrad_and_first-year_2015

https://www.smu.edu/Provost/IR/Statistics/FactSheets/Fall2015Facts/StudentEnrollment2015

https://www.smu.edu/Provost/IR/Statistics/FactSheets/Fall2015Facts/entering_first_year_2015

It would not surprise me if SMU had a higher percentage of out-of-state students than any other university in Texas.

A lot of those out of state students stay in TX. What's your point?

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:09 pm
by Pony Boss
http://www.smu.edu/aboutsmu/facts
Approximately 50 percent of SMU undergraduates come from outside of Texas, with California, Florida and Missouri following Texas as the leading home states.

Re: Dan Branch lobbying for SMU inclusion in Big 12

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:25 pm
by Pony^
Pony Boss wrote:http://www.smu.edu/aboutsmu/facts
Approximately 50 percent of SMU undergraduates come from outside of Texas, with California, Florida and Missouri following Texas as the leading home states.


You are citing 2014 numbers. In 2014, SMU reported 2,887 students from Texas out of a total undergraduate enrollment of 6,391, or 45.17%. Your cited statement says "approximately 50 percent" and 45.17% can certainly be rounded to 50%. The other possibility is they are including some non-resident aliens in the number of Texans, although, they are not supposed to include them as residents.

Meanwhile, for 2015, TCU reports 4,658 students from Texas out of a total undergraduate enrollment of 8,894, or 52.37%. http://www.ir.tcu.edu/zfiles/Fall2015.pdf.