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North Carolina Receives 3rd notice of Allegations from NCAA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:50 pm
by Stallion
its unclear whether the NCAA has put football and men's basketball teams back into jeopardy after they were somehow deemphasized in 2nd Notice of Allegations

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/coll ... 90244.html

Re: North Carolina Receives 3rd notice of Allegations from N

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:02 pm
by Water Pony
As coaches run to new jobs, schools deemphasize academics and players/teams boycott bowls, we are "inheriting the wind." At what point do we face the reality that we can't put the Genie back in the bottle?

The pursuit of college playoffs, conference championship, winning seasons and the revenue of P5 is more than a slippery slope. It is professionalism of what we formerly called college sports, especially football and men's basketball.

Re: North Carolina Receives 3rd notice of Allegations from N

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:13 pm
by Stallion
We should all be clear that the ones paying the bill for competing at a high level will be US-its going to be expensive for a school like SMU to compete without a major ticket revenue stream

Re: North Carolina Receives 3rd notice of Allegations from N

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:30 pm
by stc9
Nothing to see here... move along, move along. Nothing to see here.

Re: North Carolina Receives 3rd notice of Allegations from N

PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:05 pm
by mtrout
UNC don't play that. They rip up the NCAA's parking tickets.

Re: North Carolina Receives 3rd notice of Allegations from N

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:13 pm
by Stallion
the details of the 3rd Notice of Allegations has been released and Football and Basketball teams face substantial jeopardy

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basket ... raud-case/

Re: North Carolina Receives 3rd notice of Allegations from N

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:22 pm
by Stallion
link to official NCAA 3rd Notice of Allegations-looks like 5 Level 1 charges incorporating hundreds of violations/student athletes including specifically football and men and women's basketball

https://carolinacommitment.unc.edu/file ... ations.pdf

Re: North Carolina Receives 3rd notice of Allegations from N

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:02 pm
by peruna81
Stallion wrote:link to official NCAA 3rd Notice of Allegations-looks like 5 Level 1 charges incorporating hundreds of violations/student athletes including specifically football and men and women's basketball

https://carolinacommitment.unc.edu/file ... ations.pdf

So...a $5000 fine, or worse?

Kidding of course, but apparently UNC tried to answer some of the allegations to NCAA and it was not "entered" ? Please explain, counselor...

Re: North Carolina Receives 3rd notice of Allegations from N

PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:00 am
by stc9
Need a lawyer's expertise here. The NCAA is going to let them skate in the end (fore gone conclusion), but I digress...

My question is simply, do the member institutions need to prove innocence to the infractions committee? For an institution, is it like dealing with the IRS and the automatic presumption of guilt or is there a presumption of innocence when schools go before the committee?

Re: North Carolina Receives 3rd notice of Allegations from N

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:49 am
by Dukie
stc9 wrote:Need a lawyer's expertise here. The NCAA is going to let them skate in the end (fore gone conclusion), but I digress...

My question is simply, do the member institutions need to prove innocence to the infractions committee? For an institution, is it like dealing with the IRS and the automatic presumption of guilt or is there a presumption of innocence when schools go before the committee?


The NCAA has the burden of proof, but the process is much looser and vaguer than what you might envision, especially compared to court proceedings.

For those who want to see Carolina punished, there are some key positive signs: this Third NOA is the first one issued with the Committee on Infractions' input, not just NCAA Enforcement Staff; the COI is the entity that will decide UNC's punishment; and the best of all, the COI is chaired by SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey, whose interests in weakening UNC and the ACC are an arguable conflict of interest, but in this case align perfectly with delivering justice. The father of former Duke star Thomas Hill is also on the COI.