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Postby East Coast Mustang » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:50 am

Interesting article here...this will definitely have an impact in the next round of realignment. Not having DirecTV is a big problem for the P12 network, not sure how they havent worked that out already.


"The money is quite a bit less, too. Published reports peg the payouts to each member school at $1.5 million a year for the Pac-12 Networks, versus $7.5 million per school for those involved with the SEC Network. The Big Ten Network pays out even more, according to industry sources."

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Re: Pac-12 network struggling relative to other P5 deals

Postby leopold » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:12 am

Not surprised. Multiple PAC 12 schools report losing money, especially WSU. Proof that P5 membership is NOT a guarantee of making money.
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Re: Pac-12 network struggling relative to other P5 deals

Postby ericdickerson4life » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:48 am

The entertainment product (college football) as a whole would be better off if the P5 collectively bargained as an all inclusive unit. Instead each conference fights each other for every dollar.
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Postby Stallion » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:22 am

Supreme Court precedent held that that would likely constitute an anti-trust violation and that TV rights are owned by the schools. See Oklahoma/Georgia v NCAA
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Postby 1983 Cotton Bowl » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:23 am

I'm no expert on sports media. . . but it seems to me that the combination of massive saturation plus massive cord cutting is going to be devastating for all of college sports. Its an untenable situation long term.
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Re: Pac-12 network struggling relative to other P5 deals

Postby gostangs » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:32 am

exactly - there is quite a bit of whistling past the graveyard going on in college sports right now.

look at all of Disney's latest public releases. ESPN is killing them. They are not going to go from that, to bidding up for college sports content
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Re: Pac-12 network struggling relative to other P5 deals

Postby ericdickerson4life » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:29 pm

Thanks for pointing that at Stallion. Guess my point doesn't really matter.

ESPN subscribers definitely took a hit over the past several years. I wouldn't write them off just yet. All the cord cutter (and I'm included) have more options available to them than ever before. But almost all those options have ESPN as a major part of their packages. I'm talking about Sling, PS Vue, DirecTV's version, HULU's upcoming version, Googles upcoming version, etc. They are also working on the production side, or so I've read, so they will be less reliant on distribution for profitability.
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Re: Pac-12 network struggling relative to other P5 deals

Postby leopold » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:31 pm

1983 Cotton Bowl wrote:I'm no expert on sports media. . . but it seems to me that the combination of massive saturation plus massive cord cutting is going to be devastating for all of college sports. Its an untenable situation long term.


I agree 100%.

But what this also shows is that a one-size fits all model doesn't apply to college athletics. People in Birmingham, AL, Oxford, MS, Clemson, SC, College Station, TX and Columbus, OH simply care a HELL of lot more about college sports -especially football - than places like Pullman, WA, Bloomington, IN or Portland, OR. It's like any other product - it's regional and depends on the culture.
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Postby NavyCrimson » Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:42 pm

When SMU-TCU outdraws USC on a given Saturday like last year, yeah - I would say the PAC is in trouble.
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Re: Pac-12 network struggling relative to other P5 deals

Postby DanFreibergerForHeisman » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:31 pm

It is just shocking the networks haven't been able to crack DirecTV now that ATT owns DirecTV. Idiotic actually.
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Re: Pac-12 network struggling relative to other P5 deals

Postby CA Mustang » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:28 pm

DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:It is just shocking the networks haven't been able to crack DirecTV now that ATT owns DirecTV. Idiotic actually.

Especially since AT&T is a major sponsor of the Pac-12. However, positions on both sides are entrenched so there would have to be a major change for a breakthrough to occur.
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Re: Pac-12 network struggling relative to other P5 deals

Postby Mexmustang » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:44 pm

I would imagine playing games on the Pacific time zone really hurts. Many of these games are on when the East Coast is going to bed. Always hoped SMU and Houston additions would help the problem, but just wishful thinking.
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Re: Pac-12 network struggling relative to other P5 deals

Postby Water Pony » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:55 am

Easy button:

PAC 12 adds two Central Time Zone teams, one in Dallas and another in Houston. BTW, Rice is more appealing academically that UH, IMHO.
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Re: Pac-12 network struggling relative to other P5 deals

Postby StallionsModelT » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:23 am

Easier button:

Sit tight until B12 implodes. Poach Texas and either BYU or TCU/Texas Tech.
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Re: Pac-12 network struggling relative to other P5 deals

Postby Mexmustang » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:45 am

Easiest Button: Get in first, then allow Houston to 'ball' Texas from membership!
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