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According to a Sports Day Q&A, OU and UT want out of the Big XII, article doesn't say where or with whom. The article went on to say that if they left Big XII would back fill with UH and SMU, but that it wouldn't be a P5 conference anymore. So, the question is stay in AAC or join TCU, Baylor, TT, OSU, UH, KU, KSU, ISU, WV in reconstituted Big XII (maybe adding Cincy and Navy for FB/WSU for hoops).

If this situation were to happen and we had the opportunity to go the Big 12, it would be an easy decision (even without OU and Texas). Football would obviously be watered down but there would still be quality programs. And basketball would be significantly improved over the AAC. But OU and Texas won't be able to leave until the Big 12 Grant of Rights is up which isn't until like 2024.

I believe many SMU fans would rather join the Southland Conference so we can get to 10 wins since Dallas luvs a winner. We've lost 50 straight games against Big 12 South-stupid to play them when we've successfully beat or scheduled teams like Houston Baptist, Abilene Christian, Central Arkansas and Stephen F. Austin to the roaring approval of many SMU fans

We have shown the ability lose to Texas A&M, UNT, or James Madison. We've got range.

Every school in the Big XII wants out of the Big XII, save Baylor who is untouchable and would have no other options. It's getting old having people act like this is news.

leopold wrote:Every school in the Big XII wants out of the Big XII, save Baylor who is untouchable and would have no other options. It's getting old having people act like this is news.

But the only valuable schools are OU, UT and Kansas.

ponyfan37 wrote:

leopold wrote:Every school in the Big XII wants out of the Big XII, save Baylor who is untouchable and would have no other options. It's getting old having people act like this is news.

But the only valuable schools are OU, UT and Kansas.

Only KU basketball has value and football drives conference realignment.

ponyfan37 wrote:

leopold wrote:Every school in the Big XII wants out of the Big XII, save Baylor who is untouchable and would have no other options. It's getting old having people act like this is news.

But the only valuable schools are OU, UT and Kansas.

Honestly, I disagree.

No seriously.

OSU might be the most underappreciated program in the country. Great funding thanks to TBoone and competitive across the board, but it can't be easy having Boomer Sooner as a big brother, overshadowing them.

Tech's loaded with potential. West Virginia and KSU have consistently overachieved as programs. There isn't a bad program in the bunch, if Baylor could only clean their damned act up.

But they can't get along and they're tired of getting rejected, and those things became intertwined. They could have made this work, even with the undersized media market. Still could. But they don't trust each other anymore and the if school who insisted to be the focal point of the conference isn't committed than nobody is. They have to get the money sorted out and they need an identity as a conference. Need group therapy worse than any lot I've ever seen.

CA Mustang wrote:

ponyfan37 wrote:

leopold wrote:Every school in the Big XII wants out of the Big XII, save Baylor who is untouchable and would have no other options. It's getting old having people act like this is news.

But the only valuable schools are OU, UT and Kansas.

Only KU basketball has value and football drives conference realignment.

Football drives realignment, but KU would be a great partner for OU or UT to bring a long. They are easily one of the 5 best basketball programs. I think the KU basketball brand brings more value than any of the remaining schools football brands.

It will be interesting to read everyone's thoughts on this realignment.

I've always thought that after the next big realignment in 2024 we'll end up in a watered down Big XII with TCU, Baylor, Houston, and who knows who else.

East Coast Mustang wrote:I've always thought that after the next big realignment in 2024 we'll end up in a watered down Big XII with TCU, Baylor, Houston, and who knows who else

I might actually feel sorry for the frogs, but I doubt it.

East Coast Mustang wrote:I've always thought that after the next big realignment in 2024 we'll end up in a watered down Big XII with TCU, Baylor, Houston, and who knows who else.

I tend to agree and could see that happening in the long run IF Texas, OU, OSU and TTech end up in the PAC 16 which to me is the most likely scenario. It all comes down to the $$ because the SEC would probably like to have just UT and OU although A$M might object to inviting the whorns. The last round of expansion messed up the SEC's geographic alignment with Missou playing in the east, but adding just UT and OU would clean up their west/east divisions. Only problem with playing in the PAC is the west coast exposure factor because too many people on the east coast are not going to stay up and watch those late night west coast games. Not sure the PAC could generate the same revenue as the SEC but I will admit I have not followed that very closely.

I would love to be reunited with more of our old SWC mates and and see the Big XII get back to 12 teams in whatever the new conference might be called. TCU, Baylor, Kansas, KSU, SMU & Houston in the west and ISU, WVU, UCF, USF, Cincy & Memphis in the East sound good to anyone?

We have a LONG way to go before we are competitively ready for the Big 12 (in whatever form it is). Expansion to the Big 12 will mean expansion into other sports by necessity. SMU has no choice but to roll the dice and bet on the next round of expansion...and shut it down if we find ourselves on the outside afterwards.

How long did it take Baylor to be competitive in Big 12 Football, about 10 years or so? They got there with the right coach. And Kansas and Iowa State still aren't vying for any Football championships. I think we could do it in 5 years even though we have beat TCU since they were in the Big 12 haven't we? In all other sports we sponsor we are currently competitive.