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Re: Who leads their team to a bowl game first

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:25 am
by No Quarter
mrydel wrote:Saban is going to get it changed to being required to play only P5 schools. Not sure if he is working on that for NCAA or just SEC.


I have memories of a long ago Sports Illustrated article, perhaps by Paul Zimmerman, that was perhaps the first discussion of Div. I-A (by any name) conferences playing to a national Championship. It might have been before the dissolution of the SWC. Anyway, among the ideas were that the conferences enrolled would put one team in the post season tournament, and that independents like Notre Dame could agree to an affiliation or pond sand.

I remember also a bitter letter to the editor in reply that we were headed towards a "super airplane" division or something like of 64 or so teams or so which seems remarkably like the present alignment of P5 and other schools.

Say instead a Saban promoting P5 against P5 competition you had all the G5 schools opting off the football schedules of P5 schools including bowl games. No telling the rules of competition that that the NCAA would have to adopt to give some movement to the bottom half of each conference. And how many bowls would sponsors fund for participation by the P5 schools only?

I think the P5 - G5 issue should be resolved with relegtion and promotion of the bottom and top teams but its hard to see that the top dogs would agree and of course there would be a scramble to reschedule OOC games each season.

We are in this situation because the most successful programs wanted a bigger share of the TV revenue and to cut their own deals. Maybe that is right. But it is has made for a very different Saturday's America than when Dutch Meyer uttered the words that became the title of the book by Jenkins and the changes are not over.

Re: Who leads their team to a bowl game first

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:55 am
by ponyboy101
don't sleep on UNT, year 3 under literal coming off a possible 10 win season, wouldn't be surprised if they even beat us

Re: Who leads their team to a bowl game first

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:15 am
by Comet
ponyboy101 wrote:don't sleep on UNT, year 3 under literal coming off a possible 10 win season, wouldn't be surprised if they even beat us

Yeah, you absolutely cannot write them off. You'd be foolish to. In fact, I sort of favor them over us next year. They're all about the Seth Littrell hype train that is gaining speed (probably his last year) whereas we will have a new coach and staff figuring out some stuff.

Re: Who leads their team to a bowl game first

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:17 am
by Charleston Pony
That UNT game will be huge for this team and could very likely determine how the season plays out. Give UNT credit for the way they finished this year after getting stomped at Ford

Re: Who leads their team to a bowl game first

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:28 am
by sbsmith
ponyboy101 wrote:don't sleep on UNT, year 3 under literal coming off a possible 10 win season, wouldn't be surprised if they even beat us



We won't be going to a bowl if we lose that one.

Re: Who leads their team to a bowl game first

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:37 am
by SMU_Alum11
It would have the same feelings as if SMU bball had lost to New Orleans. Sure they're not bad, but you're expected to win and win big.

Re: Who leads their team to a bowl game first

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:22 pm
by gohogs14
SoCal_Pony wrote:I think it’s embarrassing that a mid-tier SEC school would schedule

EASTERN ILLINOIS
at Colorado State
NORTH TEXAS
TULSA

as their non-conference opponents.


There was originally a game scheduled @ Michigan but they backed out and Colorado State took its place

Re: Who leads their team to a bowl game first

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:12 pm
by mrydel
That is correct. Michigan chose to cancel Arkansas rather than us. Maybe Michigan deserves some ridicule.

Re: Who leads their team to a bowl game first

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:45 pm
by Charleston Pony
SMU_Alum11 wrote:It would have the same feelings as if SMU bball had lost to New Orleans. Sure they're not bad, but you're expected to win and win big.


Big difference is we are not giving New Orleans a return trip...don't want to play teams like that on their court. UNT is a home/home series and a much more competitive series than when SMU was in the SWC and was recruiting on a completely different level than UNT (then NTSU)

Re: Who leads their team to a bowl game first

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:54 pm
by SMU_Alum11
Charleston Pony wrote:
SMU_Alum11 wrote:It would have the same feelings as if SMU bball had lost to New Orleans. Sure they're not bad, but you're expected to win and win big.


Big difference is we are not giving New Orleans a return trip...don't want to play teams like that on their court. UNT is a home/home series and a much more competitive series than when SMU was in the SWC and was recruiting on a completely different level than UNT (then NTSU)


It hasn’t been competitive with NTCC since June took a dump in his pants before he left that [deleted] show. IMO, NTCC will never be a rival nor should it ever be. It should be a penciled win and if it’s argued otherwise then FCS 4 life.