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PlanoStang wrote:Not sure if JJ was forced out, or just quit because of all the B.S. being thrown at him by some fans that didn't like his flirtation with Arizona, his offense, his style of recruiting, or lack of hitting during some practices, etc..

Stallion wrote:That 2013 UCF team was never ranked No. 3 in the Country. They lost to South Carolina earlier in the year. This year's UCF team was better, played in a much better conference, ended up higher ranked, was undefeated and was named NATIONAL CHAMPIONS by Disney among others. We came within about 30 yards of a regulation tie in closing minutes this year and didn't even need a polar ice-cap to do it. June coached in a watered down league that was the weakest we have played in our history. The AAC pretty much put June out to pasture after Gilbert graduated. The AAC right now has separated from the pack and is the consensus top non-P5 league in the Country-and specially our Division is close to the SEC East and PAC 12 South in Sagarin ratings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_UCF_ ... tball_team

The American was a better conference with Louisville and Rutgers than it is with Tulsa, Tulane, and East Carolina.

Maybe but SMU never played Louisville in football in the AAC-would have been another L. The program was quite clearly stepping down in talent as I termed it 2 years before it hit rock bottom.

‘With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW, there are plenty of Golf Courses’ - SMU Head Coach June Jones

Stallion wrote:Maybe but SMU never played Louisville in football in the AAC-would have been another L. The program was quite clearly stepping down in talent as I termed it 2 years before it hit rock bottom.

We didn’t play South Florida or Temple this season.

SoCal_Pony wrote:

PlanoStang wrote:Not sure if JJ was forced out, or just quit because of all the B.S. being thrown at him by some fans that didn't like his flirtation with Arizona, his offense, his style of recruiting, or lack of hitting during some practices, etc..

Actually JJ wasn't much worse than Chad at recruiting. 7 classes for an average rank of 79 vs.
3 classes for 74 for leavem hangin Chad. Chad was lots of rah rah noise, and maybe tried harder, but probably ended up spinning his wheels in a lot of cases. Also JJ's last class with Courtland Sutton was probably under rated at #99.

SMU TCU

2008 #91 #97
2009 #81 #46
2010 #76 #46
2011 #50 #26
2012 #90 #37
2013 #71 #30
2014 #99 #50

2015 #74 #31
2016 #74 #20
2017 #75

except that #50 ranking had 9-10 recruits who were non-qualifiers and never made it to campus. Class won 1 game as Seniors

No Quarter wrote:Under which coach did SMU use up the W - L record and go under 0.500 all time? What conference were we playing in then? How did that conference compare to the SWC (if different) and later conference affiliations? Which coach or coaches improved the W - L ration? What strictures did that coach or those coaches face as opposed to their predecessors?

I wish I hadn't, but I looked up the first couple of answers. All-time pre-DP, SMU was 76 games over .500. All-time post-DP, SMU has been 89 games below .500. The all-time record dropped below .500 in the first of the back-to-back 1-11 seasons (under Bennett).