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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby RGV Pony » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:13 pm

Mexmustang wrote:BS! Our AD hasn't a clue nor the foresight to market the program. We've lost numerous season ticket holders and have gained very few. A major responsibility of the AD is to generate sales, not rely on W-L to fill the stands. It is his responsibility to recognize athletics for what it is a REVENUE opportunity. If he is sitting in his office, waiting for tickets to be sold he simply needs to go. It is his responsibility to not manage to a static revenue line, but to increase revenues. It is very disheartening that that he sees his job as managing a budget instead of managing the top line. He is way over his head needs to go. But, then who else would Turner hire that would be his yes man.

You people are fools if you believe that the head of the Mustang Club didn't bail for a reason!

Wonder why TCU does it and SMU doesn't? Their AD moved on to UT ours didn't even gdet an interview at KU! Little man, with no insight as to how a major program is run and what it takes to increase revenue. Once more, he needs to go, unfortunately no one wants him.

He lectures on diversity and GPA, I told him BS, he had two goals, the Big Xll and an increase in athletic revenues. He has been here what? seven years? Since that time he has never reviewed a coach's performance face to face, there is only one or two coaches still here, he doesn't have the respect of a single head coach, and we've fallen well below 100 on the Director's Cup rankings. We don't have a single member of the Athletic Department that ever coached or played in D-1, not single employee! We don't have a booster club any more and our Letterman's Club is fed up with him. If your guys don't get the fact that the President of the Mustang Club, whose election to the board was made by the administration quits on the program and you guys just go passively on with the same ol,' same ol', no one has a chance! Oh, its OK we no longer have a luncheon to fire up the troops, why not get rid of the cheerleaders and the band, their expensive also.

We have a little man, that has no vision for athletics at this university, a UNC PE major that has no business sense, a little man that is afraid to reveiw his subordinates, a little man that is more afraid of his budget than winning, well boys, adios. You get what you deserve.


Which "president of the Mustang Club" was it that quit?

Mustang Club revenues have increased 5 of the 6 years Hart has been here..

Football season ticket sales last year were the highest they've been in a season with no A&M at home.

There are at least two "booster clubs" [aside from MC] that exist with regard to football, at different levels of giving, both of which somewhat require an invite.

Copeland and Secules both played D1, how'd that work out?

As for "Afraid to review subordinates"
Chad left before a review
June was allowed to exit stage left
LB had an extension on the table to which we said no thanks in response to not being able to fire for cause if he got us back on probation (or worse)
Jank -last year and this off season notwithstanding, you don't fire a guy who was 30-5 his first full season
Golf - coach got us on probation and was let go
Tennis- let go.
W ball-longest tenured coach was invited to pursue other opportunities.

None of the above constitutes an opinion. These are facts. I would agree with you on revenue, Directors cup and I guess big xii.

Diversity and GPA are things every athletic director has to champion.
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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby smusic 00 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:20 pm

Mex, do you know the president of the MC posted just above you?

The luncheon lost money year over year. They are working on making it a different type of event for next year. It’s not the beginning of the plague. And here you are, going Mt Vesuvius on the guy that has overseen the largest investment in athletics in a generation.
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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby RGV Pony » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:31 pm

Mexmustang wrote:
One Trick Pony wrote:I'm not sure anyone could sell more SMU football tickets.


You are correct, if you don't try and sit in your office like a little king you won't. Those of us that saw us go from 6,000 to 60,000 in one year against Rice at the Cotton Bowl know it can be done. And we had losing seasons. It requires vision and effort. You can't simply sit in your office and wait for the President to call.

Quite frankly I won't hire a person with your attitude or lack of vision. I really mean that. If you truly believe it can't be done, it can't or at least you can't.

Why not just reseat Ford then? Once more, this guy has to go!
Oh, I'm glad you mentioned 6 to 60k. Brad Thomas, who of course worked with Potts, is coordinating some marketing efforts that are privately funded, with Hart's blessing. He's also welcoming more donations. More money = more exposure. The ad I heard today with the mayors of Dallas and Ft Worth are part of that initiative. Don't like the ad? Write a check and meet with Brad and give him your input.
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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby PonyPlayer4 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:35 pm

The guys above addressed the other points, but regarding the Letterman’s club.....SMU football just had the largest gathering of letter winners back on campus they have ever had for a former player cookout. At the event ADRH spoke, and he was not greeted with the sentiments you are sharing. I agree some things should be scrutinized, but don’t just make whatever story up you want on a baseless tirade.
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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby PonyKai » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:46 pm

Mexmustang wrote:BS! Our AD hasn't a clue nor the foresight to market the program. We've lost numerous season ticket holders and have gained very few. A major responsibility of the AD is to generate sales, not rely on W-L to fill the stands. It is his responsibility to recognize athletics for what it is a REVENUE opportunity. If he is sitting in his office, waiting for tickets to be sold he simply needs to go. It is his responsibility to not manage to a static revenue line, but to increase revenues. It is very disheartening that that he sees his job as managing a budget instead of managing the top line. He is way over his head needs to go. But, then who else would Turner hire that would be his yes man.

You people are fools if you believe that the head of the Mustang Club didn't bail for a reason!

Wonder why TCU does it and SMU doesn't? Their AD moved on to UT ours didn't even gdet an interview at KU! Little man, with no insight as to how a major program is run and what it takes to increase revenue. Once more, he needs to go, unfortunately no one wants him.

He lectures on diversity and GPA, I told him BS, he had two goals, the Big Xll and an increase in athletic revenues. He has been here what? seven years? Since that time he has never reviewed a coach's performance face to face, there is only one or two coaches still here, he doesn't have the respect of a single head coach, and we've fallen well below 100 on the Director's Cup rankings. We don't have a single member of the Athletic Department that ever coached or played in D-1, not single employee! We don't have a booster club any more and our Letterman's Club is fed up with him. If your guys don't get the fact that the President of the Mustang Club, whose election to the board was made by the administration quits on the program and you guys just go passively on with the same ol,' same ol', no one has a chance! Oh, its OK we no longer have a luncheon to fire up the troops, why not get rid of the cheerleaders and the band, their expensive also.

We have a little man, that has no vision for athletics at this university, a UNC PE major that has no business sense, a little man that is afraid to reveiw his subordinates, a little man that is more afraid of his budget than winning, well boys, adios. You get what you deserve.


lmao this is one of he most lunatic things I’ve read on this site, even for you. Your suppositions are enough to make Alex Jones blush.
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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby CenTXpony » Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:40 am

PonyKai wrote:
Mexmustang wrote:BS! Our AD hasn't a clue nor the foresight to market the program. We've lost numerous season ticket holders and have gained very few. A major responsibility of the AD is to generate sales, not rely on W-L to fill the stands. It is his responsibility to recognize athletics for what it is a REVENUE opportunity. If he is sitting in his office, waiting for tickets to be sold he simply needs to go. It is his responsibility to not manage to a static revenue line, but to increase revenues. It is very disheartening that that he sees his job as managing a budget instead of managing the top line. He is way over his head needs to go. But, then who else would Turner hire that would be his yes man.

You people are fools if you believe that the head of the Mustang Club didn't bail for a reason!

Wonder why TCU does it and SMU doesn't? Their AD moved on to UT ours didn't even gdet an interview at KU! Little man, with no insight as to how a major program is run and what it takes to increase revenue. Once more, he needs to go, unfortunately no one wants him.

He lectures on diversity and GPA, I told him BS, he had two goals, the Big Xll and an increase in athletic revenues. He has been here what? seven years? Since that time he has never reviewed a coach's performance face to face, there is only one or two coaches still here, he doesn't have the respect of a single head coach, and we've fallen well below 100 on the Director's Cup rankings. We don't have a single member of the Athletic Department that ever coached or played in D-1, not single employee! We don't have a booster club any more and our Letterman's Club is fed up with him. If your guys don't get the fact that the President of the Mustang Club, whose election to the board was made by the administration quits on the program and you guys just go passively on with the same ol,' same ol', no one has a chance! Oh, its OK we no longer have a luncheon to fire up the troops, why not get rid of the cheerleaders and the band, their expensive also.

We have a little man, that has no vision for athletics at this university, a UNC PE major that has no business sense, a little man that is afraid to reveiw his subordinates, a little man that is more afraid of his budget than winning, well boys, adios. You get what you deserve.


lmao this is one of he most lunatic things I’ve read on this site, even for you. Your suppositions are enough to make Alex Jones blush.

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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:04 am

smusic 00 wrote:They are working on....next year.

Gonna be great NEXT YEAR!
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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby CenTXpony » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:18 am

One Trick Pony wrote:.Image


True story. Although I’ve taken my talents to the kitchen more than the smoker lately.
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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby JasonB » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:19 am

"Little man". At least we found out who Trump's speechwriter is.
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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby One Trick Pony » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:54 am

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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby Dutch » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:22 am

JasonB wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:@DanFreiburgerforHeisman
It regularly lost money


Okay, then hold it on campus instead of at the Hilton. Problem solved...


that doesn't really save any money. most hotels will give you the event space for free or discount if you guarantee "x" number of meals purchased.

we'd have to do the same on campus via our Aramark contract for food service - and it would probably cost the same for the food. Those servers you see at on-campus events are hired through a 3rd party provider that has, IIRC a 4 hour minimum at roughly $75 an hour per server. we'd have to rent the tables, chairs, table settings through ducky bobs or some other provider b/c carrying those as inventory isn't cost effective.

point being, it's not as simple as just waving a wand and saying "poof" on campus is free.
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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby One Trick Pony » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:24 am

I'm drawn to the "poof" Theory.
If you listen close it resonates with one of our favorite childhood fantasies the tooth fairy
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Re: no kickoff luncheon?

Postby Dutch » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:31 am

Mexmustang wrote:BS! Our AD hasn't a clue nor the foresight to market the program. We've lost numerous season ticket holders and have gained very few. A major responsibility of the AD is to generate sales, not rely on W-L to fill the stands. It is his responsibility to recognize athletics for what it is a REVENUE opportunity. If he is sitting in his office, waiting for tickets to be sold he simply needs to go. It is his responsibility to not manage to a static revenue line, but to increase revenues. It is very disheartening that that he sees his job as managing a budget instead of managing the top line. He is way over his head needs to go. But, then who else would Turner hire that would be his yes man.

You people are fools if you believe that the head of the Mustang Club didn't bail for a reason!

Wonder why TCU does it and SMU doesn't? Their AD moved on to UT ours didn't even gdet an interview at KU! Little man, with no insight as to how a major program is run and what it takes to increase revenue. Once more, he needs to go, unfortunately no one wants him.

He lectures on diversity and GPA, I told him BS, he had two goals, the Big Xll and an increase in athletic revenues. He has been here what? seven years? Since that time he has never reviewed a coach's performance face to face, there is only one or two coaches still here, he doesn't have the respect of a single head coach, and we've fallen well below 100 on the Director's Cup rankings. We don't have a single member of the Athletic Department that ever coached or played in D-1, not single employee! We don't have a booster club any more and our Letterman's Club is fed up with him. If your guys don't get the fact that the President of the Mustang Club, whose election to the board was made by the administration quits on the program and you guys just go passively on with the same ol,' same ol', no one has a chance! Oh, its OK we no longer have a luncheon to fire up the troops, why not get rid of the cheerleaders and the band, their expensive also.

We have a little man, that has no vision for athletics at this university, a UNC PE major that has no business sense, a little man that is afraid to reveiw his subordinates, a little man that is more afraid of his budget than winning, well boys, adios. You get what you deserve.


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