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Left out again?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:54 pm
by PonyPride
THe 2021 class for the College Football Hall of Fame has been announced ... and somehow Eric Dickerson was left out again:

Harris Barton, OT, North Carolina (1983-86)
David Fulcher, DB, Arizona State (1983-85)
Dan Morgan, LB, Miami (1997-2000)
Carson Palmer, QB, USC (1998-2002)
Tony Romo, QB, Eastern Illinois (1999-2002)
Kenneth Sims, DT, Texas (1978-81)
C.J. Spiller, RB/KR, Clemson (2006-09)
Darren Sproles, RB, Kansas State (2001-04)
Aaron Taylor, OT, Notre Dame (1990-93)
Andre Tippett, DE, Iowa (1979-81)
Al Wilson, LB, Tennessee (1995-98)

Coaches:
Rudy Hubbard, 83-48-3 (63.1%), Florida A&M (1974-85)
Bob Stoops, 190-48-0 (79.8%), Oklahoma (1999-2016)

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:06 pm
by PonyPride
Except he's already in. Brain cramp — sorry. I need more coffee.

This is what I meant to write:

THe 2021 class for the College Football Hall of Fame has been announced ... and joining, among others, Eric Dickerson, who got in last year:

Harris Barton, OT, North Carolina (1983-86)
David Fulcher, DB, Arizona State (1983-85)
Dan Morgan, LB, Miami (1997-2000)
Carson Palmer, QB, USC (1998-2002)
Tony Romo, QB, Eastern Illinois (1999-2002)
Kenneth Sims, DT, Texas (1978-81)
C.J. Spiller, RB/KR, Clemson (2006-09)
Darren Sproles, RB, Kansas State (2001-04)
Aaron Taylor, OT, Notre Dame (1990-93)
Andre Tippett, DE, Iowa (1979-81)
Al Wilson, LB, Tennessee (1995-98)

Coaches:
Rudy Hubbard, 83-48-3 (63.1%), Florida A&M (1974-85)
Bob Stoops, 190-48-0 (79.8%), Oklahoma (1999-2016)

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:04 pm
by Charleston Pony
I guess the question becomes...when will the next former SMU player be inducted and who might that be?

Dickerson was the 10th Mustang to be named to the Hall, joining Matty Bell, Hayden Fry, Jerry LeVias, Gerald Mann, Don Meredith, Ray Morrison, Kyle Rote, Doak Walker and Bobby Wilson.

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:28 pm
by panhandle_pony
Louie Kelcher ?

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:29 pm
by panhandle_pony
Forrest Gregg

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:30 pm
by panhandle_pony
Forrest Gregg

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:24 pm
by EastStang
Gregg certainly should be. Raymond Berry really flourished in the pros and not as much in college. Mike Livingston and Chuck Hixson should be in there. Mike Carter was an All American.

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:11 pm
by Sewanee Stang
Lance McIlhenny? The winningest QB in Southwest Conference History.

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:57 pm
by mustangxc
Selection criteria:

First and foremost, a player must have received First Team All-America recognition by a selector organization that is recognized by the NCAA and utilized to comprise their consensus All-America teams.

A player becomes eligible for consideration by the Foundation’s honors courts 10 years after his final year of intercollegiate football played.

While each nominee’s football achievements in college are of prime consideration, his post football record as a citizen is also weighed. He must have proven himself worthy as a citizen, carrying the ideals of football forward into his relations with his community and fellow man. Consideration may also be given for academic honors and whether or not the candidate earned a college degree.

Players must have played their last year of intercollegiate football within the last 50 years*. For example, to be eligible for the 2014 ballot, the player must have played his last year in 1964 or thereafter. In addition, players who are playing professionally and coaches who are coaching on the professional level are not eligible until after they retire.

https://www.cfbhall.com/about/selection-process/

SMU's all time consensus All-Americans:
1 Doak Walker B 3 1947, 1948, 1949
2 Russell Carter DB 1 1983
3 Eric Dickerson RB 1 1982
4 Reggie Dupard RB 1 1985
5 Richard Hightower L 1 1951
6 Louie Kelcher DL 1 1974
7 John Lagrone DL 1 1966
8 Jerry Levias E 1 1968
9 Robert Popelka DB 1 1972
10 Kyle Rote B 1 1950
11 John Simmons DB 1 1980
12 Emanuel Tolbert WR 1 1978
13 Jc Wetsel L 1 1935
14 Bobby Wilson B 1 1935

Other All-Americans:
Oscar Roan TE 1974
Harvey Armstrong DT 1981
Jerry Ball DT 1986
John Stewert K 1993

With that said, I think Russell Carter and Reggie Dupard have the highest chance to get in.

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:18 pm
by Junior
What about Jerry Ball?

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:22 pm
by 91Stang
Junior wrote:What about Jerry Ball?

No Michael Carter?

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:46 pm
by mustangxc
Junior wrote:What about Jerry Ball?


It appears he was an All-American selection by FN-2 in 1986 so he is eligible. I will edit my post.

91Stang wrote:No Michael Carter?


I don't think he was selected as a football All-American by any selector organization so he isn't eligible.

Re: Left out again?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:15 pm
by DanFreibergerForHeisman
It's too bad John Stewart wasn't consensus All-American. He would be a good choice.