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Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:39 pm
by big foot
MDJ - I graduated from SMU in 1981 and have had season tickets since Texas Stadium! I do agree that he has made some mistakes, but most of his mistakes are because we are stuck at G5. His last 2 football coaches, Morris/Dykes, have left because they wanted the upside of P5. Although I did not like Morris from the moment he arrived, we all have to admitt that we were for the most part initially happy - it came down to Morris or Herman. Both coaches were top candidates at the time. Sonny has been a good coach, but TCU is probably a better job right now - P5 versus G5! The problem is you do not leave to go to your schools 100+ year rival. I actually believe that by staying until the end of the season he thought he was doing the honorable move, but he needed to leave over a month ago. Staying has hurt the players and the program.

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:41 pm
by ALEX LIFESON
Ok Bus, is this official enough....or do you want to read it in the newspaper?

https://247sports.com/college/smu/Artic ... 175708724/

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:03 pm
by Pony64
ALEX LIFESON wrote:Ok Bus, is this official enough....or do you want to read it in the newspaper?

https://247sports.com/college/smu/Artic ... 175708724/


So disappointed with Sonny. Really thought he wanted a legacy here. Leaving is one thing, but leaving for our biggest rival is hard to forgive.

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:24 pm
by BUS
got it. SUCKS.
Stick it where the sonny dont shine.

Game day shirt

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:28 pm
by Oldmins
big foot wrote:MDJ - I graduated from SMU in 1981 and have had season tickets since Texas Stadium! I do agree that he has made some mistakes, but most of his mistakes are because we are stuck at G5. His last 2 football coaches, Morris/Dykes, have left because they wanted the upside of P5. Although I did not like Morris from the moment he arrived, we all have to admitt that we were for the most part initially happy - it came down to Morris or Herman. Both coaches were top candidates at the time. Sonny has been a good coach, but TCU is probably a better job right now - P5 versus G5! The problem is you do not leave to go to your schools 100+ year rival. I actually believe that by staying until the end of the season he thought he was doing the honorable move, but he needed to leave over a month ago. Staying has hurt the players and the program.


"You do not leave to go to your schools 100+ year rival." You ever heard of Saban and LSU and Alabama?

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:29 pm
by 3rdGenPony

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:31 pm
by Pony64


He really shouldn't. I'll never forgive him for this.

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:35 pm
by 3rdGenPony
If he has signed a contract with another university, there is no way he should be on our sideline tomorrow.

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:37 pm
by Dukie
Oldmins wrote:
big foot wrote:MDJ - I graduated from SMU in 1981 and have had season tickets since Texas Stadium! I do agree that he has made some mistakes, but most of his mistakes are because we are stuck at G5. His last 2 football coaches, Morris/Dykes, have left because they wanted the upside of P5. Although I did not like Morris from the moment he arrived, we all have to admitt that we were for the most part initially happy - it came down to Morris or Herman. Both coaches were top candidates at the time. Sonny has been a good coach, but TCU is probably a better job right now - P5 versus G5! The problem is you do not leave to go to your schools 100+ year rival. I actually believe that by staying until the end of the season he thought he was doing the honorable move, but he needed to leave over a month ago. Staying has hurt the players and the program.


"You do not leave to go to your schools 100+ year rival." You ever heard of Saban and LSU and Alabama?

Saban went to the Miami Dolphins from LSU. That makes a difference.

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:55 pm
by PlanoStang
big foot wrote:MDJ - I graduated from SMU in 1981 and have had season tickets since Texas Stadium! I do agree that he has made some mistakes, but most of his mistakes are because we are stuck at G5. His last 2 football coaches, Morris/Dykes, have left because they wanted the upside of P5. Although I did not like Morris from the moment he arrived, we all have to admitt that we were for the most part initially happy - it came down to Morris or Herman. Both coaches were top candidates at the time. Sonny has been a good coach, but TCU is probably a better job right now - P5 versus G5! The problem is you do not leave to go to your schools 100+ year rival. I actually believe that by staying until the end of the season he thought he was doing the honorable move, but he needed to leave over a month ago. Staying has hurt the players and the program.


I knew Sonny was a BULLSHIDARTIST from the time I heard from him or elsewhere his favorite team as a kid was SMU, and he always wanted to coach here. The previous used car salesman as you know used that same line :!:

Stuck in a G5 should be history in a year or so with expanding the playoff to 10 or 12. You win your G5 conference, and you go to the big dance.

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:01 pm
by ponyboy
Sonny got a seven year contract offer from us, but it did not contain non-financial items he considered necessary to seal the deal. One might guess it had to do with further facilities upgrades, but I’m not sure.

By the way, Lashlee’s already been recruiting certain members of Dykes’ SMU staff. One hopes that includes Samples.

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:59 pm
by CBpony
No way Samples stays. I bet he’s the first one Sonny takes

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:13 pm
by 3rdGenPony
What "items"? Were they realistic requests or poison pills to foil the deal? I doubt we ever know the full truth, but I hope SMU did the right thing and lays it all out after the fact to set the record straight.

Re: Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:34 am
by DanFreibergerForHeisman
CBpony wrote:No way Samples stays. I bet he’s the first one Sonny takes

Samples can do much better than that.

Lots of smoke... any official statement?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:46 am
by TidePony
I can’t believe Sark isn’t going after Samp. More money for Samp and the SEC. Plus, he wouldn’t be working for a boss that’s a known liar.