Why is Sonny being allowed to coach tomorrow?

[redpony]

He is as bad as JJ.- recruiting for the opposition while being paid by SMU. At least JJ got us to some decent bowl games (and won).

[PonyTime]

I’ll try to slow it down for you, Dukie.

If I recall correctly, he has the second best winning percentage in SMU history. He got us a 10 win season, beat TCU twice, was a master of recruiting, and had us ranked for quite a few weeks over his time here. I’m thankful for all of that.

And I wish him well, personally. He’s a likable guy.

But as the coach of TCU, I wish him nothing but abject failure. This is because I hate TCU - not because I hate Sonny Dykes.

If I recall correctly he has a 1-3 record since unofficially accepting the TCU job a month ago. Has been a master of recruiting for the Horned Frogs for the last month. Has us ranked 0 weeks over the last month. What makes anyone think he is an asset on the sidelines today?

[HubbaHubba]

Working for another program while still under contract with SMU. Can not think of a more egregious abdication of responsibility. Would think that would be grounds, at least, for suspension if not immediate termination. If a player violated team rules to such a degree he would not be suiting up for the game.

[Rebel10]

I don’t understand how anyone should not be pissed off at Dykes for his behavior. Telling recruits to decommit while employed at SMU should be enough to have wrath at the SOB, but to do that against your biggest football rival only the devil does that. There are certain unwritten rules in sports, and coaches at the biggest rivals don’t go to the other rival. You don’t see a HC at Ohio State to go Michigan or Vice versa, or NC / Duke, Texas / A&M, or in other sports a coach at Barcelona to Madrid, it just doesn’t happen because it is assumed this is never considered when you assume the face of the program. I was fooled by SD and wish him nothing but failure not just because it’s TCU but because of what he did. Actions speak louder than words and he’s basically told SMU to screw itself. Any self respecting alum, fan should find this unacceptable.

That’s a P5 school to a P5 school. This is a non P5 school to a P 5 school. Completely different scenario. This is more like going from FIU to coach at Florida State.

[Mountain Mustang]

I don’t understand how anyone should not be pissed off at Dykes for his behavior. Telling recruits to decommit while employed at SMU should be enough to have wrath at the SOB, but to do that against your biggest football rival only the devil does that. There are certain unwritten rules in sports, and coaches at the biggest rivals don’t go to the other rival. You don’t see a HC at Ohio State to go Michigan or Vice versa, or NC / Duke, Texas / A&M, or in other sports a coach at Barcelona to Madrid, it just doesn’t happen because it is assumed this is never considered when you assume the face of the program. I was fooled by SD and wish him nothing but failure not just because it’s TCU but because of what he did. Actions speak louder than words and he’s basically told SMU to screw itself. Any self respecting alum, fan should find this unacceptable.

That’s a P5 school to a P5 school. This is a non P5 school to a P 5 school. Completely different scenario. This is more like going from FIU to coach at Florida State.

That's a pretty short sighted view though. Technically yes, G5 to P5 is an upgrade, but he's going to a team in a watered down P5 that just had it's two biggest schools depart. Long term, who's to say what the Big12 will be? Only thing we know for sure is that we don't have any clue what conferences will look like in just a few years. And maybe more importantly your example is way off the mark because FIU and FSU don't have a 100 year RIVALRY. That's what this is all about and why Maroons hits the nail on the head.

[smubrooks]

So does Sonny wear SMU or tcu gear for the game?

[Rebel10]

What I said is reality. But some do not want to accept it but that’s fine. Lashlee will leave if he is successful here and a P5 school that he likes comes calling. But I do wish Coach Lashlee the best while he is here. As I said our P5 chances went pretty much down the tubes when Houston beat us in getting into the Big 12 which will always be better than the AAC.

[PonyTime]

What I said is reality. But some do not want to accept it but that’s fine. Lashlee will leave if he is successful here and a P5 school that he likes comes calling. But I do wish Coach Lashlee the best while he is here. As I said our P5 chances went pretty much down the tubes when Houston beat us in getting into the Big 12 which will always be better than the AAC.

This is why we should have gone 100% after Gary Patterson. I am not sure that they even made that attempt - but it would have been the right play for a number of reasons.

1.) Signal to the B12 (and other conferences) that we are serious and make a national media statement that would get significant coverage.
2.) Retain 20 years of texas recruiting pipelines that Patterson holds.
3.) As much as I don't like the guy - sometimes having a mean SOB on the sidelines is a good thing. Sounds like we hired the "nice guy" coach.
4.) Have a coach that is not looking to jump ship in 2 years.
5.) Essentially flip the script on TCU with the hire. We are what TCU once was.

[Rebel10]

What I said is reality. But some do not want to accept it but that’s fine. Lashlee will leave if he is successful here and a P5 school that he likes comes calling. But I do wish Coach Lashlee the best while he is here. As I said our P5 chances went pretty much down the tubes when Houston beat us in getting into the Big 12 which will always be better than the AAC.

This is why we should have gone 100% after Gary Patterson. I am not sure that they even made that attempt - but it would have been the right play for a number of reasons.

1.) Signal to the B12 (and other conferences) that we are serious and make a national media statement that would get significant coverage.
2.) Retain 20 years of texas recruiting pipelines that Patterson holds.
3.) As much as I don't like the guy - sometimes having a mean SOB on the sidelines is a good thing. Sounds like we hired the "nice guy" coach.
4.) Have a coach that is not looking to jump ship in 2 years.

You know, going after Patterson might not have been a bad idea. Just saying’.

[Oldmins]

Has a successful coach ever left a team after three or four years to go to a school in a higher ranked conference without the kind of feelings expressed here? That coach always takes with him the assistant coaches he likes best, and two or three commitments. And the fans always, always respond just the same way fans here are responding.

[ponyboy]

If I recall correctly he has a 1-3 record since unofficially accepting the TCU job a month ago. Has been a master of recruiting for the Horned Frogs for the last month. Has us ranked 0 weeks over the last month. What makes anyone think he is an asset on the sidelines today?

For the record, I don't think he's an asset on the sidelines today. It appears that they were trying to do the right thing and not talk about him moving on until tomorrow, but it got out there. Now that it has, he should not be on the field.

[ponyboy]

Has a successful coach ever left a team after three or four years to go to a school in a higher ranked conference without the kind of feelings expressed here? That coach always takes with him the assistant coaches he likes best, and two or three commitments. And the fans always, always respond just the same way fans here are responding.

Yep. Happens every single time.

[PerunaPunch]

This is why we should have gone 100% after Gary Patterson. I am not sure that they even made that attempt - but it would have been the right play for a number of reasons.

1.) Signal to the B12 (and other conferences) that we are serious and make a national media statement that would get significant coverage.
2.) Retain 20 years of texas recruiting pipelines that Patterson holds.
3.) As much as I don't like the guy - sometimes having a mean SOB on the sidelines is a good thing. Sounds like we hired the "nice guy" coach.
4.) Have a coach that is not looking to jump ship in 2 years.
5.) Essentially flip the script on TCU with the hire. We are what TCU once was.

While I appreciate the symmetry of this, I don't think Patterson is the same coach that he was. I don't know the man, but his reactions to adversity this year reek of burnout. I doubt he'd take the SMU gig, or any HC job for that matter -- especially in the near term. And if he did accept out of spite, it would be a disaster for both parties.

I don't like this situation or the university's characteristically poor response to handling it, but I do like the presumptive HC choice. The next few days will be critical to see what kind of staff can be retained or put together, and whether or not we can recapture momentum in recruiting.

[shadowman]

If I recall correctly he has a 1-3 record since unofficially accepting the TCU job a month ago. Has been a master of recruiting for the Horned Frogs for the last month. Has us ranked 0 weeks over the last month. What makes anyone think he is an asset on the sidelines today?

For the record, I don't think he's an asset on the sidelines today. It appears that they were trying to do the right thing and not talk about him moving on until tomorrow, but it got out there. Now that it has, he should not be on the field.

This. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If things were "still up in the air", I would be OK with him coaching on Senior Day. But now that the cat is out of the bag and the gory details have been revealed that he is also taking all of the key coaches and recruits with him, no way should he be on the sidelines. If he had any decency, he would make this decision on his own. If he does not, then Hart has to step up and not let him coach.

Leavitt can run the show today, is probably his last game as an SMU coach too, possibly his last, period.

[ponyboy]

Curious: How did SMU respond poorly? The only thing I can think of is that Dykes was ready and willing to sign here, but we wouldn't give him what he thinks he needed to get to the next level.