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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby Water Pony » Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:10 am

Endowment (June 30, 2021) $2.1 billion
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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby Mustangs_Maroons » Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:11 am

FroggieFever wrote:
Mustangs_Maroons wrote:Where is the source that tcu’s endowment is $500mm higher than that of SMU?


https://endowment.tcu.edu/

Middle of page shows $2.4B. The latest Campus Update (shared internally, quarterly) is at $2.56B.


You’re comparing different points in time. In 2021 they were similar (which is the last reference to SMu). I’m assuming they’d still be similar if we used the same point in time up to early 2022 which is why TCU shows.
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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby FroggieFever » Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:34 am

Mustangs_Maroons wrote:
FroggieFever wrote:
Mustangs_Maroons wrote:Where is the source that tcu’s endowment is $500mm higher than that of SMU?


https://endowment.tcu.edu/

Middle of page shows $2.4B. The latest Campus Update (shared internally, quarterly) is at $2.56B.


You’re comparing different points in time. In 2021 they were similar (which is the last reference to SMu). I’m assuming they’d still be similar if we used the same point in time up to early 2022 which is why TCU shows.


Just going with SMU's IR #'s.
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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby mtrout » Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:36 am

SMU has been passed by TCU, then Houston...now here come UNT and Rice pulling into the passing lane.
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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby Mustangs_Maroons » Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:47 am

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Just going with SMU's IR #'s.[/quote]

I understand but the devil is in the details. If you’re saying it’s $500mm higher it would be useful to know that SMU also is based on the same point and time. But it’s a year dated and the benefit of the strong second half of 2021. Otherwise use the same point in time to draw conclusions. My point is that when using similar points in time historically the endowments were similar. I’d be surprised if that has changed but we’ll see once SMU publishes its latest figures that are not a year stale.
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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby gostangs » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:22 pm

SMU’s endowment is higher - have it on good authority. It’s significantly higher on a per student basis which is what matters.
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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby FroggieFever » Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:46 pm

gostangs wrote:SMU’s endowment is higher - have it on good authority. It’s significantly higher on a per student basis which is what matters.


Long time no talk, gostangs! Hope you are well.

In that case, tell IR to update the site. They are a fiduciary.
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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby rodrod5 » Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:10 pm

the easiest place yo make a comparison of endowments using the dame reporting criteria and time period would be here

https://www.nacubo.org/-/media/Nacubo/D ... 42FFBDEB56
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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby mtrout » Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:47 am

rodrod5 wrote:the easiest place yo make a comparison of endowments using the dame reporting criteria and time period would be here

https://www.nacubo.org/-/media/Nacubo/D ... 42FFBDEB56

And similar data from 1995 (RGT year 1):
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d97/d97t352.asp
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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby mtrout » Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:05 am

rodrod5 wrote:the NACUBO has it back to 1990

https://www.nacubo.org/Research/2021/Hi ... Study-Data

Nice. So TCU was 20% behind in 1990 now they're ~5% ahead. That doesn't seem like an insane change to me.
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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby Comet » Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:58 pm

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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby Charleston Pony » Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:00 pm

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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby fan » Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:05 pm

Comet wrote:More about SMU here today:

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-m ... ac-12s-d11



PAC-12 beat guy does not throw that out there without hearing it from his sources. Interesting.
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Re: PAC12 Scenario = Expansion

Postby ponyboy » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:55 am

Posted this morning.
If the Pac-12 schools can stay together — they’ve made that pledge to one another, whatever that’s worth these days — Kliavkoff has the authority to move forward with expansion. That could target Boise State, San Diego State or possibly SMU, if the league is looking for a Texas connection.

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/J ... nment.aspx
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