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Re: College Football Playoff expands to 12 teams in 2024 sea

Postby Dukie » Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:33 am

redpony wrote:dukie- no hatred. I am just results oriented. If those two worked in American industry they would have been fired years ago.

That’s fine. Strong word. Yea, they would’ve been.
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Re: College Football Playoff expands to 12 teams in 2024 sea

Postby JasonB » Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:40 pm

SoCal_Pony wrote:
JasonB wrote:Reduces the chance we get into the Pac 12, but it increases the chance of top programs getting together to form a 6th major conference.


How so?????

The 12 team format was inevitable and from what i read, the odds of it being in ‘24 were greater than 50/50 as they would strong arm the Rose Bowl if necessary, which apparently they did.

Every source that I’ve read has never mentioned any correlation between the ‘24 expansion date and expansion.


Without CFP expansion, there was a race for survival between the Big 12 and Pac 12, and that drove a lot of the expansion talk. Once CFP expansion was reported, it reduced the pressure. The Big 12 finalized their deal first because they needed to lock in their schools before the size of the PAC 12 contract came out. Now the PAC 12 can take their time.

Now that CFP expansion is finalized, PAC 12 expansion is purely a monetary decision. It isn't competitive (access to recruiting grounds or need another top football school). In fact, UW and UO are looking at it and thinking they have a damn good chance of being in the playoffs every year. They want to maximize per school revenue, so they will only agree to expansion if it will increase their contract size. The California schools look at it and now they don't have to sacrifice their academic integrity at all. So they can keep the ruffians out.

So, now you are looking at a situation where SMU would need to raise the overall value of the PAC 12 contract, but then the PAC 12 would only want to pay SMU by the amount that they raise the overall contract value. But again, I think there is a good chance that the pressure to expand is off unless the media partners tell the PAC 12 that there is enormous value in having games in central time zone, which would require multiple teams in the central time zone, and we haven't heard anything about that being a strong possibility.

Regarding the creation of a super conference out of the G5 remnants, the 6th best conference becomes a big deal. The AAC was set to become that prior to Houston, UCF, and Cincy leaving, which now is a real shame because I think the current AAC would drive a hell of a media deal with CFP expansion. The question is really whether the MWC can put together a big enough media contract to pull SMU and Memphis out of the AAC. Conversely, can the AAC get a large enough contract to pull Boise and Colorado State.

The final piece to keep an eye on is the ACC. When the PAC 12 gets their new contract and it is paying significantly more than the ACC contract, and after already seeing that the Big 12 got a decent deal without UT and OU, it may become obvious to those schools that if they void the current contract, even if Clemson and Miami leave to go elsewhere, the leftover schools will be able to expand and still be able to get more money than what they are getting today.
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Re: College Football Playoff expands to 12 teams in 2024 sea

Postby EastStang » Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:11 pm

Great points. The only thing in our favor in this is (1) if we dominate the new conference and (2) if the ACC and Pac-12 feel the need to raid the central time zone. The PAC already goes to Mountain time zone with CO and UT. The ACC only is in the eastern time zone. If that's the case, we would be the best looking girl at the bar at last call. We fit better with the ACC which has a large number of private schools. U, BC, Wake, Duke, Syracuse (and UVA and UNC might as well be). Went to the UVA/Pitt game the day before the shooting. The stands were about as full at kickoff as they are at one of our games.
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Re: College Football Playoff expands to 12 teams in 2024 sea

Postby ponyboy » Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:13 pm

I despise the idea of expanding the AAC. If possible (please let it be so if the PAC-12 or ACC don’t come knocking), would love a “best of the rest” conference without a Charlotte, UTSA, FAU, or Carl’s Carburetor College.
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Re: College Football Playoff expands to 12 teams in 2024 sea

Postby MDJenkins » Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:21 pm

All great points. One of these things the above teams have in common is a proactive AD who know how to better their respective programs and transition to better conferences.
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Re: College Football Playoff expands to 12 teams in 2024 sea

Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:41 pm

Any talk of a "best of the rest" conference would need to include SunBelt teams as many of them have out performed AAC & MWC schools in recent years
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Re: College Football Playoff expands to 12 teams in 2024 sea

Postby Terry Webster » Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:47 pm

I have a feeling that we are going to end up with 2 super conferences with the rest kind of spread out
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