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Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:18 pm
by JasonB
Just some mathematics...

https://www.science.org/content/article ... ung-people

Young people who get the vaccine have a 1 in over 6,000 chance (depending on the age) of developing myocarditis.

A study of 1600 college athletes who caught covid had a 2.3% chance of developing myocarditis.

Yes, there IS a risk of getting a heart issue when taking the vaccine. But that risk appears to be MUCH higher when you actually catch Covid.

https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/what- ... ung-people

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60835856

https://www.tctmd.com/news/reports-sudd ... nformation

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:28 pm
by HubbaHubba
JasonB wrote:Just some mathematics...

https://www.science.org/content/article ... ung-people

Young people who get the vaccine have a 1 in over 6,000 chance (depending on the age) of developing myocarditis.

A study of 1600 college athletes who caught covid had a 2.3% chance of developing myocarditis.

Yes, there IS a risk of getting a heart issue when taking the vaccine. But that risk appears to be MUCH higher when you actually catch Covid.

https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/what- ... ung-people

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60835856

https://www.tctmd.com/news/reports-sudd ... nformation


Stop with the science, logic and facts. It doesn't work. Let's just talk football.

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:11 pm
by BUS
Is that not the NFL minimum.
He really wants to help bills win a super bowl.

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:29 pm
by One Trick Pony
BUS wrote:Is that not the NFL minimum.
He really wants to help bills win a super bowl.
He signed for minimum with the bucks to I wonder what really happened there.

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:29 pm
by HubbaHubba
Hope he is able to make payments on the trailer (and afford long underwear) :P .

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:29 pm
by MustangBroker
JasonB wrote:Just some mathematics...

https://www.science.org/content/article ... ung-people

Young people who get the vaccine have a 1 in over 6,000 chance (depending on the age) of developing myocarditis.

A study of 1600 college athletes who caught covid had a 2.3% chance of developing myocarditis.

Yes, there IS a risk of getting a heart issue when taking the vaccine. But that risk appears to be MUCH higher when you actually catch Covid.

https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/what- ... ung-people


Thanks. The vaccine doesn’t keep you from getting Covid so you are at least incrementally increasing your risk
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60835856

https://www.tctmd.com/news/reports-sudd ... nformation

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:03 pm
by soccermom
Good for Cole! So happy for him. Now I can cheer for the Bills again!

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:31 pm
by ponyboy
He’s a good fit up there.

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:49 pm
by peruna81
ponyboy wrote:He’s a good fit up there.

Since all the brave souls that are planning to attend the New Mexico Bowl are bundling up, I imagine Cole has his long johns in the suitcase too.

Hope he does well, gets to the Super Bowl versus the Cowboys, and is present for loss number 5 for the Bills.

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:12 pm
by malonish
MustangBroker wrote:
mustangxc wrote:
gostangs wrote:He's awesome. And now he looks smart on all his covid stuff instead of crazy!

How so?


I’m guessing he means the numerous young people dying of heart conditions due to the vaccine as well as the fact that the majority dying of Covid now are vaccinated, but I can’t speak for him.


I'll take things that didn't happen for 200, Alex.

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:13 pm
by malonish
JasonB wrote:Just some mathematics...

https://www.science.org/content/article ... ung-people

Young people who get the vaccine have a 1 in over 6,000 chance (depending on the age) of developing myocarditis.

A study of 1600 college athletes who caught covid had a 2.3% chance of developing myocarditis.

Yes, there IS a risk of getting a heart issue when taking the vaccine. But that risk appears to be MUCH higher when you actually catch Covid.

https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/what- ... ung-people

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60835856

https://www.tctmd.com/news/reports-sudd ... nformation


+1. My usual response to this naïve claim is "wait til you hear about covid infections"

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:19 pm
by malonish
MustangBroker wrote:
Thanks. The vaccine doesn’t keep you from getting Covid so you are at least incrementally increasing your risk


Last one I swear :mrgreen:

The risk occurs on your first incidence with either the disease or the vaccine. Your body knows how to fight the bug on subsequent incidence and doesn't blow up as badly. So for your first incidence do you want an X% chance or a >7X% chance of the problem? The chance is not additive as you postulate there. Risk mitigation is the name of the game and the Pride of Little Elm's Biology Department :wink: is only one of many sources of information.

Source of 7x from August 29 2022:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10 ... 51314/full

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:24 am
by peruna81
and Cole is going to play for the Bills....

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:27 am
by One Trick Pony
peruna81 wrote:and Cole is going to play for the Bills....
Fabulous

Re: Cole Beasley comes out of retirement

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:56 am
by MustangBroker
malonish wrote:
MustangBroker wrote:
Thanks. The vaccine doesn’t keep you from getting Covid so you are at least incrementally increasing your risk


Last one I swear :mrgreen:

The risk occurs on your first incidence with either the disease or the vaccine. Your body knows how to fight the bug on subsequent incidence and doesn't blow up as badly. So for your first incidence do you want an X% chance or a >7X% chance of the problem? The chance is not additive as you postulate there. Risk mitigation is the name of the game and the Pride of Little Elm's Biology Department :wink: is only one of many sources of information.

Source of 7x from August 29 2022:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10 ... 51314/full



So I follow your logic there is no need for the vaccine if you already had covid? I wonder if that was always your opinion. I’m guessing not.