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Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:23 amby Insane_Pony_Posse
FEB 27, 2023 "Big Ten officials want to pursue at least two, and up to four, Pac-12 universities for membership. That list of four includes Oregon, Washington, California, and Stanford, with the Big Ten zeroing in on Washington and Oregon as its preferred options for realignment"https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cf ... 12-schools
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:43 amby Charleston Pony
This kind of report at the same time Clemson and FSU are expressing their frustration with the ACC's media deal is just a reminder that the Big 10 and SEC control the landscape of college athletics
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:59 amby EastStang
If that happens, then you'd see MWC merge with OSU, WSU, ASU, AZ, UU, and CU or they might look at Big XII. Another kitten died from another expansion thread.
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:06 pmby Hoofbeat83
The Big 12 will take the 4 corner schools leaving OSU and WSU in the dust...like us.
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:52 pmby ponyboy
Incorrect report. B10 has no such interest right now.
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:11 pmby PNW_Stang
I think nobody knows anything. And if someone does, there’s no way to know they are the one telling the truth. I will believe SMU is in the PAC and actually playing multiple seasons with the current school when it happens. Otherwise I will assume it will be us and a few other teams for the top G5 spot every year going forward.
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:41 pmby Topper
We live in a world of clickbait. I don't know what to believe unless it comes straight from the horse's mouth anymore. Sports journalists mostly work for, or have a presence with, the media that hold the broadcast rights. So how reliable can they be? It is definitely true that realignment is completely under the thumb of those paying for the broadcast rights. We don't know what the thinking is in those board rooms and programming departments. Also remember that even though the ACC schools are locked into a long term deal, everything is on the table at all times. There is money to move any school to whatever conference ESPN, Fox, etc demand.
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:10 pmby JasonB
We already know that the former Big 10 commish was the one driving aggressive expansion, and that the rest of the Big 10 doesn't want to expand until after ND makes a decision.
This is just noise to make sure the PAC12 teams don't lock themselves into a long term GOR agreement that exceeds the length of what the ACC is locked into.
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:43 pmby Insane_Pony_Posse
Pac-12 expansion, realignment speculation:
March 1, 2023
"Impending sense of doom" over media dealDennis Erickson, who coached Arizona State from 2007-2011 and Rich Rodriguez, who coached Arizona from 2012-2017, were among several former Pac-12 football coaches quoted in a recent CBS Sports story questioning the future of the conference amid the league's inability to land a new media rights deal and amid swirling college conference realignment speculation. "What is to stop Oregon and Washington from going to the Big Ten, from Arizona and Arizona State going to the Big 12?" Rodriguez, now the coach at Jacksonville State, told CBS Sports' Dennis Dodd in the story. "I would think they're teetering on the brink right now." Rodriguez addressed the Pac-12's ongoing media rights deal saga in the story amid reports that the conference could potentially partner with a streaming service for games. "I know most everybody can get ESPN+ or the streaming things," Rodriguez said. "You're not going to have it on in the bars. … Your visibility will never be the same, ever. Then there's just the perception, 'Oh, you guys played? I didn't see it.' And then you won't be talked about. Erickson speculated about the lack of a TV deal impacting recruiting in the conference. "It's nice when you can turn it on a regular channel and not worry about all that other stuff," Erickson told CBS Sports. "I think it will hurt them in recruiting, no question." "The collateral damage could lead to the demise of the Pac-12, notwithstanding the conference's recent statement saying the remaining 10 members were committed to stay together." https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 958210007/
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:25 pmby ponyboy
Hey Beavis, there’s a B12 propaganda campaign going on. Let’s not help them, please. Thanks.
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:14 pmby Insane_Pony_Posse
ponyboy wrote:Hey Beavis, there’s a B12 propaganda campaign going on. Let’s not help them, please. Thanks.
So former PAC12 Coaches Dennis Erickson and Rich Rodriguez are part of a B12 campaign to keep SMU out of the PAC12?
You don't accept the fact that it is hard to negotiate a new TV deal when broadcast heavy hitters have already bailed, and the PAC12 can't even tell the final broadcast suitors what schools will be in the conference?
Personally I believe that schools like Oregon, Washington, Stanford, AZ, and AZ State are much more worried about a PAC12 collapse than SMU, because those schools have much more at stake. This is a $100 million dollar game of high stakes poker playing out right before our eyes...and SMU is a very minor player in this game.
Of course I am VERY WORRIED about SMU not getting an invite and/or being invited to a conference that basically collapses in next 24 months. https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/02/20/ ... schedules/
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:25 pmby EastStang
Wouldn't be our first time joining a conference that collapsed within 24 months. But even then its an upgrade from our current affiliation, and it still has a seat in the college football playoffs until it doesn't. If Cal, Stanford, OR and WU leave, then the Big XII might look better to the corner schools. But if 2 of the 4 stay, they'll stay. They want no part of BU, BYU, TT, TCU, OSU. WV, UCF, UH, ISU and Cincy. KU and KSU would be their only draws. Otherwise, they'd have poached the Big XII when UT and OU left.
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:40 pmby ponyboy
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:ponyboy wrote:Hey Beavis, there’s a B12 propaganda campaign going on. Let’s not help them, please. Thanks.
So former PAC12 Coaches Dennis Erickson and Rich Rodriguez are part of a B12 campaign to keep SMU out of the PAC12?
They’re misinformed. Get a pay subscription.
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:17 pmby Nedward
If you're following anything related to Dennis Dodd then good luck.
And if you read the entire article, the coaches themselves admit they have zero first hand information. That's from their mouths, not mine. They are speculating to a guy looking for click bait. All just pure speculation...no basis in real Intel.
Re: Big10 wants to pursue @ least 2 & up to 4 PAC12 teams
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Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:42 pmby Rla1022