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Topper wrote:

max the wonder dog wrote:AZ Joining CO in move to BIG 12 Discussed in AZ Media

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/college/pac-12/2023/06/05/big-12-expansion-speculation-swirls-around-pac-12s-arizona-wildcats/70290593007/

Colorado board of regents meets tomorrow afternoon. Agenda includes discussion of legal matter related to athletics per public posting.

From what I read it had something to do with expansion of facilities.

Patience, Grasshoper

Arizona and Colorado can, and should, wait to see the Pac-12 media deal l Pac-12 Podcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAjVjjSJ9FE

UCLA Having Buyer's Remorse?

In an outside-the-paywall column Canzano says UCLA might return to PAC 12 when its contract with B1G ends in 2030.

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-you-want-plot-twists-i-got

Nothing even approaching definitive here but SI reporting on Jim Williams saying the B1G has vetted 10 schools for possible future expansion: 5 PAC (the 4 you’d expect + Utah) and 5 ACC (the 2 you’d expect + Duke, Ga Tech & Miami.

https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/ne ... ssovlement

max the wonder dog wrote:UCLA Having Buyer's Remorse?

In an outside-the-paywall column Canzano says UCLA might return to PAC 12 when its contract with B1G ends in 2030.

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-you-want-plot-twists-i-got

That's some hardcore wishcasting like the Big 12 outlets wondering if Nebraska would return from the Big Ten to the Big 12 during 2020 and the Big Ten's long refusal to play football that year.

WordUpBU wrote:

max the wonder dog wrote:UCLA Having Buyer's Remorse?

In an outside-the-paywall column Canzano says UCLA might return to PAC 12 when its contract with B1G ends in 2030.

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-you-want-plot-twists-i-got

That's some hardcore wishcasting like the Big 12 outlets wondering if Nebraska would return from the Big Ten to the Big 12 during 2020 and the Big Ten's long refusal to play football that year.

Don't take this the wrong way. I am not being argumentive and I don't object to anyone participating on this board as long as they are respectful. But why are all of these Big 12 bloggers, vloggers, and commentators spending so much time and energy talking about the PAC? I understand that the Big 12 is trying to do what it can to overcome the loss of all of its prestige members over the past couple of decades. But all of these people seem overtly agressive and seem to have no hesitation to repeat any rumor that comes along for the sake of keeping the discussion going. I am as much of a football fan as anyone else, but I have never even thought about reading other teams' blogs or commenting on their situation to their fan base. I come and go in peace.

It is easy to understand due to the big 12 hired a p.r. firm to help increase their standing. Personally I find it off putting and insecure.

Topper wrote:

WordUpBU wrote:

max the wonder dog wrote:UCLA Having Buyer's Remorse?

In an outside-the-paywall column Canzano says UCLA might return to PAC 12 when its contract with B1G ends in 2030.

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-you-want-plot-twists-i-got

That's some hardcore wishcasting like the Big 12 outlets wondering if Nebraska would return from the Big Ten to the Big 12 during 2020 and the Big Ten's long refusal to play football that year.

Don't take this the wrong way. I am not being argumentive and I don't object to anyone participating on this board as long as they are respectful. But why are all of these Big 12 bloggers, vloggers, and commentators spending so much time and energy talking about the PAC? I understand that the Big 12 is trying to do what it can to overcome the loss of all of its prestige members over the past couple of decades. But all of these people seem overtly agressive and seem to have no hesitation to repeat any rumor that comes along for the sake of keeping the discussion going. I am as much of a football fan as anyone else, but I have never even thought about reading other teams' blogs or commenting on their situation to their fan base. I come and go in peace.

Honestly since 2010 most of the Big 12 fanbases have been following realignment closely- particularly when we might be involved. As someone who obviously follows my school but also has a soft spot for SMU, I periodically come over here when the topic makes sense. I'm not exactly new here and simply offer a different perspective- respectfully of course.

Topper wrote:

WordUpBU wrote:

max the wonder dog wrote:UCLA Having Buyer's Remorse?

In an outside-the-paywall column Canzano says UCLA might return to PAC 12 when its contract with B1G ends in 2030.

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-you-want-plot-twists-i-got

That's some hardcore wishcasting like the Big 12 outlets wondering if Nebraska would return from the Big Ten to the Big 12 during 2020 and the Big Ten's long refusal to play football that year.

Don't take this the wrong way. I am not being argumentive and I don't object to anyone participating on this board as long as they are respectful. But why are all of these Big 12 bloggers, vloggers, and commentators spending so much time and energy talking about the PAC? I understand that the Big 12 is trying to do what it can to overcome the loss of all of its prestige members over the past couple of decades. But all of these people seem overtly agressive and seem to have no hesitation to repeat any rumor that comes along for the sake of keeping the discussion going. I am as much of a football fan as anyone else, but I have never even thought about reading other teams' blogs or commenting on their situation to their fan base. I come and go in peace.

Not many people on these forums as righteous as you.

Big XII showing their more reachable targets.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/big-12-commissioner-visits-memphis-182628691.html

EastStang wrote:Big XII showing their more reachable targets.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/big-12-commissioner-visits-memphis-182628691.html

Basketball.

Don't take this the wrong way. I am not being argumentive and I don't object to anyone participating on this board as long as they are respectful. But why are all of these Big 12 bloggers, vloggers, and commentators spending so much time and energy talking about the PAC? I understand that the Big 12 is trying to do what it can to overcome the loss of all of its prestige members over the past couple of decades. But all of these people seem overtly agressive and seem to have no hesitation to repeat any rumor that comes along for the sake of keeping the discussion going. I am as much of a football fan as anyone else, but I have never even thought about reading other teams' blogs or commenting on their situation to their fan base. I come and go in peace.[/quote]

Honestly since 2010 most of the Big 12 fanbases have been following realignment closely- particularly when we might be involved. As someone who obviously follows my school but also has a soft spot for SMU, I periodically come over here when the topic makes sense. I'm not exactly new here and simply offer a different perspective- respectfully of course.[/quote]
My question was really more about the audience for these attention seeking Big 12 mouthpieces who keep popping up on my Youtube feed. Obviously people are watching these performances becuse there are so many of them and they keep coming back day after day. Some more respectable than others but I don't understand their obsession with realignment and their almost uniform glee when it comes to repeating questionable rumors about the demise of the PAC 12.

Memphis would fit perfectly in the Big 12 - backwater market, low academics, singular sports success, secondary appeal in their market….but, it will [deleted] me off if they get some sort of invite before us, really [deleted] me off. Memphis is a JC on roids , at best.

GHammond wrote:Memphis would fit perfectly in the Big 12 - backwater market, low academics, singular sports success, secondary appeal in their market….but, it will [deleted] me off if they get some sort of invite before us, really [deleted] me off. Memphis is a JC on roids , at best.

They already took Houston so what is one more JUCO? Yeah it sucks to be not invited to the party but, hopefully, we'll get invited to the prom and won't have mourn over not going to the sock hop. The diminished Pac12>>>the diminished Big12. The Big12 fans and admins know this. That is why they are praying (preying?) to snatch a PAC12 member or two. Any existing PAC12 member would likely be favored to win the Big12 conference their first year. Don't know if that is incentive enough to make any of the schools jump to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond.

Topper wrote:Don't take this the wrong way. I am not being argumentive and I don't object to anyone participating on this board as long as they are respectful. But why are all of these Big 12 bloggers, vloggers, and commentators spending so much time and energy talking about the PAC? I understand that the Big 12 is trying to do what it can to overcome the loss of all of its prestige members over the past couple of decades. But all of these people seem overtly agressive and seem to have no hesitation to repeat any rumor that comes along for the sake of keeping the discussion going. I am as much of a football fan as anyone else, but I have never even thought about reading other teams' blogs or commenting on their situation to their fan base. I come and go in peace.

Honestly since 2010 most of the Big 12 fanbases have been following realignment closely- particularly when we might be involved. As someone who obviously follows my school but also has a soft spot for SMU, I periodically come over here when the topic makes sense. I'm not exactly new here and simply offer a different perspective- respectfully of course.[/quote]
My question was really more about the audience for these attention seeking Big 12 mouthpieces who keep popping up on my Youtube feed. Obviously people are watching these performances becuse there are so many of them and they keep coming back day after day. Some more respectable than others but I don't understand their obsession with realignment and their almost uniform glee when it comes to repeating questionable rumors about the demise of the PAC 12.[/quote]

It depends on who it is exactly whether they are being ethical about it but generally a combo of the following...
A- It's the offseason and it gets clicks/views

B- It's an interesting saga. You've got business angles to analyze, political angles to analyze, and athletic changes that could result from it. Debates over when streaming vs cable becomes a thing, debates over academia biases in different states, and the common sports topic of "how does this impact [insert school name here]'s ability to compete short term and long term?"

C- Potentially directly interested parties across 4-5 conferences (Pac 12, Big 12, MWC, AAC, and possibly Big Ten) depending on who moves where. Big 12 and Pac 12 is obvious. Big Ten if they move on some combo of Oregon/UW. AAC if SMU goes and MWC if they lose SDSU or another. Additionally smaller interest by any league MWC/AAC would backfill with.

D- This is probably the shortest runway before a TV deal runs out I have ever seen a league flirt with. The only contract the PAC has with an external media company is done a year from now. That amps up the deadline pressure to 11 even if they end up with one. Also it's being done in public in the age of social media with really well sourced sports business reporting as well giving more of a play by play than would have been common a decade ago.

It's not surprising it's getting attention in my opinion.