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WSU & OSU get good news

Postby Charleston Pony » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:03 pm

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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby MustangStealth » Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:15 pm

This could turn into must see TV, with those 2 controlling not just the conference bank account and other assets, but also all of the media archive rights. Hey USC, you want to show highlights of all your Heisman winners on your jumbotron? Pay up.
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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby Dukie » Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:41 pm

I’m happy for them and surprised he wasn’t forced to recuse. Wazzu Class of ‘73.

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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby Water Pony » Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:20 am

Although this isn't the final word, as U. of Washington and the other departing schools are appealing the decision, I am pleased for OSU and WSU. These two universities are facing demotion through no fault of their own. The other 10 schools bolted for the money and shouldn't control what happens next to the PAC12/PAC2.

I suspect Oregon State and Washington State will treat them fairly this year, but the final two voting members of the PAC12 deserve to have assets to funds a reasonable future for themselves and whoever they align with.
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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby leopold » Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:26 pm

Huh.

Wonder, from a purely legal standpoint, if OSU and Wazzou could bring in the MWC wholesale under the PAC 12 banner and somehow keep the TV deal they had for years to come.
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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby Water Pony » Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:17 pm

Oregon State, Washington State settle with departing Pac-12 schools

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This follows OSU and WSU joining the WCC for Non-revenue sports (except for baseball) in 2024. Sounds like an interim move while the Beavers and Cougars try to reconstruct the PAC12(2) now that they have a settlement and own the PAC12 assets.
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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby mustangxc » Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:32 pm

With the way everything is happening it might be smart for them to simply wait out the 2 years as partial MWC and WCC members until realignment settles down some more. They may have invitations to the ACC in less than a year. I'm not worried for us because worst case we would get left behind with several other ACC schools including Cal, Stanford, Boston College, Wake Forest, and likely Syracuse and have a bunch of solid schools on deck.

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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby SMUstang » Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:59 pm

I'm wondering if adding OSU, WSU and Boise might bring in more revenue to the ACC, to add to the success incentive kitty, like Cal, Stanford and SMU did in 2023, and form a western division in the process? Even perhaps three 7 team divisions. Would such a move cement the ACC into the 3rd best conference in revenue behind the SEC and B10?
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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby SMUstang » Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:19 am

Would a trade of California, Stanford, and SMU for UCF, West Virginia, and Cincinnati make sense? Certainly both the Big12 and the ACC would have smaller footprints and the Big 12 would gain the west coast and big markets and fertile recruiting and the ACC would stay in the eastern time zone, making travel a non issue.
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Postby Charleston Pony » Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:04 pm

SMUstang wrote:Would a trade of California, Stanford, and SMU for UCF, West Virginia, and Cincinnati make sense? Certainly both the Big12 and the ACC would have smaller footprints and the Big 12 would gain the west coast and big markets and fertile recruiting and the ACC would stay in the eastern time zone, making travel a non issue.


Geographic and athletics sense, yes...but University Presidents care about academics and what schools they align with so doubtful that travel issues for student athletes even comes into play in these conference alignment decisions
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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby Red Dragon Coog » Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:12 pm

SMUstang wrote:Would a trade of California, Stanford, and SMU for UCF, West Virginia, and Cincinnati make sense? Certainly both the Big12 and the ACC would have smaller footprints and the Big 12 would gain the west coast and big markets and fertile recruiting and the ACC would stay in the eastern time zone, making travel a non issue.




All 3 of those schools are liabilities. Otherwise the Big 12 or Big 10 would have added them.
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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby Dukie » Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:17 pm

Red Dragon Coog wrote:
SMUstang wrote:Would a trade of California, Stanford, and SMU for UCF, West Virginia, and Cincinnati make sense? Certainly both the Big12 and the ACC would have smaller footprints and the Big 12 would gain the west coast and big markets and fertile recruiting and the ACC would stay in the eastern time zone, making travel a non issue.




All 3 of those schools are liabilities. Otherwise the Big 12 or Big 10 would have added them.

Just curious, what is the “Red Dragon” part of your name—your favorite Dungeons & Dragons persona, or maybe a new Slurpee flavor?
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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby Mustangs_Maroons » Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:36 pm

Red Dragon Coog wrote:
SMUstang wrote:Would a trade of California, Stanford, and SMU for UCF, West Virginia, and Cincinnati make sense? Certainly both the Big12 and the ACC would have smaller footprints and the Big 12 would gain the west coast and big markets and fertile recruiting and the ACC would stay in the eastern time zone, making travel a non issue.




All 3 of those schools are liabilities. Otherwise the Big 12 or Big 10 would have added them.


You are the true definition of a troll. Clearly, SMU is not at the same academic level as Stanford and Berkeley (few universities are), but there is no way that Stanford or Berkeley would associate with the B12 due to the low academic standards in that conference. In the ACC, you have schools such as Duke, NC, Virginia, etc. Every school sans Louisville is ranked top 100 nationally by U.S. News. Also, the AAU status of schools is important. The top two academic conferences are the ACC (including ND) and the B10. Then there’s a big drop off to the PAC 12 mostly because of the poor rankings from ASU, Oregon state and Washington state. The SEC is fourth, and way below them are the B12 and even further below is the American. We are now where we are supposed to be in the ACC.UH fits in better in the B12 or the American. With the new realignment, it will continue to be the ACC and B10 as true academic elite conferences, then it will be the SEC, and the little 12 will bring in the rear.
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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby ShantyBoy » Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:53 pm

Dukie wrote:
Red Dragon Coog wrote:
SMUstang wrote:Would a trade of California, Stanford, and SMU for UCF, West Virginia, and Cincinnati make sense? Certainly both the Big12 and the ACC would have smaller footprints and the Big 12 would gain the west coast and big markets and fertile recruiting and the ACC would stay in the eastern time zone, making travel a non issue.




All 3 of those schools are liabilities. Otherwise the Big 12 or Big 10 would have added them.

Just curious, what is the “Red Dragon” part of your name—your favorite Dungeons & Dragons persona, or maybe a new Slurpee flavor?


Better off putting this loser on your ignore list since he continues to be given license to troll on here during his cigarette breaks at the 7-11.
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Re: WSU & OSU get good news

Postby SMUstang » Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:03 pm

I agree that this alignment would not come from a negotiation between the conferences, rather it would be an edict from a higher power with the focus on the well being of the student athletes, not anything else.
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