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Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:39 pmby peruna81
ND is a stand alone...they will be fine whatever the outcome of the ACC. There is always a Lafayette to add to the schedule if the ACC is torn asunder.
For us, the ACC is a MUST.
If FSU has a case that a court grants it standing (almost a given in Florida) then it can proceed. I still think they will try to see what legal options are deemed worthy, but the majority of this is for public consumption.
My wife is an FSU grad...she was disappointed at being shut out of the CFP, but is now embarrassed by the Seminoles' grandstanding. Since we live in College Station, she noted that this behavior mimics "that school in Austin".
I so outputted my coverage with her...
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:52 pmby redpony
so where will the case be tried? fsu filed in fla. and the ACC filed in NC. I think the contract stipulated that any action be in NC but who knows?
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:54 pmby SMUstang
Dukie wrote:SMUstang wrote:Question: Is it more important to SMU and/or Notre Dame for the ACC to be a major conference or to have the likes of Florida State, Clemson, and/or North Carolina blow it up due to greed?
What in the world does this mean? The perspectives of SMU and ND align about as well as those of Manchester City and Luton Town (not at all). And while ND will be fine if the ACC blows up, there is no scenario in which SMU is better off. How much worse is unknown. But definitely not as good as if the ACC that starts competition in fall 2024 stays together.
Notre Dames's conference of choice was the ACC. If the ACC blows up, they have no where else to go (if they so choose). They probably wouldn't consider the SEC or Big 12, and they have already turned down the Big 10 multiple times. Remember the COVID year when they needed a conference? That just could happen again.
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:56 pmby Graceland Tar Heel
SMUstang wrote:Dukie wrote:SMUstang wrote:Question: Is it more important to SMU and/or Notre Dame for the ACC to be a major conference or to have the likes of Florida State, Clemson, and/or North Carolina blow it up due to greed?
What in the world does this mean? The perspectives of SMU and ND align about as well as those of Manchester City and Luton Town (not at all). And while ND will be fine if the ACC blows up, there is no scenario in which SMU is better off. How much worse is unknown. But definitely not as good as if the ACC that starts competition in fall 2024 stays together.
Notre Dames's conference of choice was the ACC. If the ACC blows up, they have no where else to go (if they so choose). They probably wouldn't consider the SEC or Big 12, and they have already turned down the Big 10 multiple times. Remember the COVID year when they needed a conference? That just could happen again.
ND at some point either must join the BT or else act to make certain the ACC remains a Major conference. Just ND going full football would lead to FSU backing away from the ledge. That would force Disney/ESPN to up the TV money.
But the ND selfishness is supreme.
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:36 amby Dukie
SMUstang wrote:Dukie wrote:SMUstang wrote:Question: Is it more important to SMU and/or Notre Dame for the ACC to be a major conference or to have the likes of Florida State, Clemson, and/or North Carolina blow it up due to greed?
What in the world does this mean? The perspectives of SMU and ND align about as well as those of Manchester City and Luton Town (not at all). And while ND will be fine if the ACC blows up, there is no scenario in which SMU is better off. How much worse is unknown. But definitely not as good as if the ACC that starts competition in fall 2024 stays together.
Notre Dames's conference of choice was the ACC. If the ACC blows up, they have no where else to go (if they so choose). They probably wouldn't consider the SEC or Big 12, and they have already turned down the Big 10 multiple times. Remember the COVID year when they needed a conference? That just could happen again.
No, ND can and will join the B1G. They don’t want to, but they absolutely will if the ACC falters.
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:22 pmby mustangxc
SMUstang wrote:Dukie wrote:SMUstang wrote:Question: Is it more important to SMU and/or Notre Dame for the ACC to be a major conference or to have the likes of Florida State, Clemson, and/or North Carolina blow it up due to greed?
What in the world does this mean? The perspectives of SMU and ND align about as well as those of Manchester City and Luton Town (not at all). And while ND will be fine if the ACC blows up, there is no scenario in which SMU is better off. How much worse is unknown. But definitely not as good as if the ACC that starts competition in fall 2024 stays together.
Notre Dames's conference of choice was the ACC. If the ACC blows up, they have no where else to go (if they so choose). They probably wouldn't consider the SEC or Big 12, and they have already turned down the Big 10 multiple times. Remember the COVID year when they needed a conference? That just could happen again.
Notre Dame is a perfect fit for the Big East with the Catholic 7 and UConn. They have nothing to sweat.
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:03 pmby SMUstang
Who knows what ND will do under Pete Bevacqua? Change is inevitable.
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Mon Dec 25, 2023 10:37 amby SMUstang
MERRY CHRISTMAS and Happy New Year
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Mon Dec 25, 2023 10:42 amby peruna81
SMUstang wrote:MERRY CHRISTMAS and Happy New Year
Aye, this^
Hope is born...
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:53 pmby BUS
Amen
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Tue Dec 26, 2023 9:20 amby EastStang
Between Cal, Stanford and SMU folks, the FSU twitterers are getting slammed.
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:01 amby SMU Pom Mom
Is FSU going indie? Because what other conference would want to have a contract with a college that has a record of suing to get out of their last one?
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Tue Dec 26, 2023 6:23 pmby BUS
Good point. Once a litigator always a litigator.
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:27 amby HubbaHubba
Hope FSU stomps Georgia with their 4th string walk on QB and then comes into Ford next year, undefeated and ranked number 1, before we dismantle them.
Re: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub
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Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:21 pmby Charleston Pony
HubbaHubba wrote:Hope FSU stomps Georgia with their 4th string walk on QB and then comes into Ford next year, undefeated and ranked number 1, before we dismantle them.
I don't know whether Georgia will have their full roster participating but clearly FSU will be without several of their playmakers and I expect them to get drubbed which will bring out all the haters saying it was obvious FSU didn't deserve to be in the final four ahead of either Texas or Alabama. Too bad these playoffs weren't expanded to at least 8 teams long ago so at the very least a P5/6 conference champion would have had an opportunity to show how they measure up