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Re: ACC Lawsuit Stuff

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Re: ACC Lawsuit Stuff

Postby EastStang » Thu May 16, 2024 8:47 am

We're giving up what $17 Million per year. Stanford and Cal combined are giving up another $17 Million a year. That's $34 Million in addition to the bonus pool. If money was placed into the bonus pool, you'd have up to $11 to split among 3 teams, plus the bonus pool. I might add that joining the SEC means that Florida and South Carolina don't drop a blackball on their in state brothers. Also, adding two schools will cost each existing school $8 Million. We know diva Texas is not going to like that. Suddenly the numbers would begin to blend. The Big Ten is at 18 schools. So, the pain would be $7 Million per school. Add in their snobbery on academics and FSU/Clemson would fail. So, let's say that these schools if they left would get $63 Million each. They'd have to pay to leave, somewhere northward of $300 Million. It would take them at least 5 years to earn that back. On the other hand if equitable distribution occurred in the ACC based on TV viewership, instead of getting $50 Million per year schools like FSU/Clemson got $60 Million per year why leave? Also, Clemson had net losses in the transfer portal, their NIL appears to be uncompetitive. So, they may be dropping back in the pack with a young team. If Clemson has a bad year again, their lawsuit will look ridiculous even to Clemson fans. Obviously, this is in the hands of TV suits and we'll see how it plays out. DISNEY/ABC/ESPN are hemorrhaging.
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Re: ACC Lawsuit Stuff

Postby Hilltopper » Thu May 16, 2024 9:22 am

If Clemson and Florida State jump ship to the SEC or Big 10, who's to say those conferences won't do to them what the ACC did to Cal, Stanford and SMU — make them forego money for a few years while earning their spot?

I know those schools think they deserve Georgia/Ohio State/Bama money, but they might find it's not readily available.
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Re: ACC Lawsuit Stuff

Postby jkflamebo » Thu May 16, 2024 7:21 pm

UNC appears to be the linchpin of the ACC. Lots of politics and issues going on with their board, AD, state, etc. It's clear some folks want to depart the ACC and others don't, or aren't willing to go public with that.

FSU and Clemson want out badly and they will eventually.

Phillips might be better than Kliavkoff...hopefully better lawyers. Fingers crossed.

Guess the SMU strategy is to remain close to BC, Wake, Cuse, CalFord. Could get really ugly if ACC crumbles.

Need to keep winning football games.
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Re: ACC Lawsuit Stuff

Postby EastStang » Fri May 17, 2024 8:52 am

I don't see the Big 10 going to 24 schools unless TV suits pony up more dough. I don't see the SEC going above 20 schools for the same reason. That means that perhaps UNC/UVA/FSU/Clem are in play in all likelihood. Virginia's governor (a Rice grad and SMU parent) will not let UVA leave without VT. Not sure NC powers that be will let UNC leave without State, Wake and Duke. So, that may limit the damage. Even if all four left, you still have the U, GT, BC, Pitt, LV, NCS, VT, Calford, SMU, Syracuse, Wake, and Duke. Not a bad conference. I suspect, WV would want to defect to the ACC along with perhaps Cincy. Memphis would be begging to join. The best way though to settle all of this is for us to simply beat the stuffings out of FSU this year and for Clemson to have another 4-4 conference season.
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Re: ACC Lawsuit Stuff

Postby AusTxPony » Fri May 17, 2024 10:46 am

And the ACC could invite Oregon State, Wash State, SDSU out west. Tulane or Memphis. central. USF and UConn east. Enough to keep the league viable.
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Re: ACC Lawsuit Stuff

Postby Graceland Tar Heel » Fri May 17, 2024 4:53 pm

EastStang wrote:We're giving up what $17 Million per year. Stanford and Cal combined are giving up another $17 Million a year. That's $34 Million in addition to the bonus pool. If money was placed into the bonus pool, you'd have up to $11 to split among 3 teams, plus the bonus pool. I might add that joining the SEC means that Florida and South Carolina don't drop a blackball on their in state brothers. Also, adding two schools will cost each existing school $8 Million. We know diva Texas is not going to like that. Suddenly the numbers would begin to blend. The Big Ten is at 18 schools. So, the pain would be $7 Million per school. Add in their snobbery on academics and FSU/Clemson would fail. So, let's say that these schools if they left would get $63 Million each. They'd have to pay to leave, somewhere northward of $300 Million. It would take them at least 5 years to earn that back. On the other hand if equitable distribution occurred in the ACC based on TV viewership, instead of getting $50 Million per year schools like FSU/Clemson got $60 Million per year why leave? Also, Clemson had net losses in the transfer portal, their NIL appears to be uncompetitive. So, they may be dropping back in the pack with a young team. If Clemson has a bad year again, their lawsuit will look ridiculous even to Clemson fans. Obviously, this is in the hands of TV suits and we'll see how it plays out. DISNEY/ABC/ESPN are hemorrhaging.

For some time, I have been on board with part of the total TV money for ACC football to be divided based on total number of TV viewers drawn. That was discussed, and it was voted down. The charge against that was led by the schools you would expect, because they always would be at the bottom: BC, Wake, Syracuse, Dook. Even Pitt opposed, and when Pitt plays a sound schedule and is competitive, Pitt draws nicely on TV - much better than its average attendance would suggest.

I think doing that would go a long way to easing the Clemson desires to pursue leaving. It also would force teams to beef up the OOC schedules with a focus on playing teams that already have good TV draws - no more OOC cupcakes against 1AA or low tier G5. To get such schedules, an SMU probably has to give up an on campus game for a neutral site. But playing, say, A&M or Arkansas at the Cotton Bowl rather than on campus could work very nicely for you long run.
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