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When you fill up with four and five star guys, it's hard to make room for threes. Nice problem to have.

smupony94 wrote:I want footballdad's analysis

Well, since you asked:

Ranked about 7-8th in the AAC, and in the 80's nationally, depending on who you ask. Anyone being honest would say this is certainly below where they would have expected Morris to be recruiting at this point in his tenure.

QB: Morris again lost his hand picked future QB as he flipped late, making this a yearly ritual now. Gillins and Upshaw athletes,
not QB's. Page a Collin Rock clone with no position, likely to fall by the wayside like Rock.
WR: Tiny school development project
OL: Very good
RB: TBD (small but speed to burn)
TE: Struck out, stud decommitted

DB: Average, with upside.
DE/DT: Terrible (except Ndukwe, who I believe got hurt). All undersized and lightly recruited.
LB: Terrible. 1 with very low level offers, the other 5'9 173lbs

Truth, don't hate!

All superior to your son.

LOL. I love how Collin Rock has "fallen by the wayside" in his redshirt freshman season. That's a special brand of stupid.

StallionsModelT wrote:All superior to your son.

.......and no reply to the reality of the analysis, huh.

StallionsModelT wrote:LOL. I love how Collin Rock has "fallen by the wayside" in his redshirt freshman season. That's a special brand of stupid.

Nice practice players, will never see the field, except possibly on special teams. Watch!

footballdad wrote:

smupony94 wrote:I want footballdad's analysis

OL: Very good

Given how little we lost to graduation/attrition... i expect this aspect, alone, to be worth a 1.5-win bump. we got the thing we needed the most. lots of other disappointments, but we've arrived at a very solid starting 22 (minus LBs i guess).

Don't really accept your premise-here some facts-these are other ways our recruits have been described

former 4 Star QB transfer-National Top 250
former 4 Star JUCO QB-National Top 250
former 4 star WR transfer-National Top 100
former 3 star JUCO TE/No. 1 JUCO TE in Country
JUCO All-American DE as a Freshman
5A First Team All State Safety/All DFW Metroplex First Team
Houston Touchdown Club Finalist QB/ First team All Greater Houston
Texas Top 50 Offensive Lineman
Texas Top 100 Offensive lineman
First team All 6A Offensive Lineman-22 offers too
2 Time First Team Private School All-State LB
3 Star CB
3 Star CB/S
5A District MVP RB/LB
Parade All-American-USA No. 1 WR in catches/yardage/3rd All-Time in Texas
First Team All-East Texas/Texas Top 100/4A All State WR
Defensive MVP in the 5A State Championship Game/ First Team All DFW Metroplex
Defensive MVP in 5A State Championship Part Deux as only a Junior/Texas Top 100
Unanimous 6A District MVP

just depends if you want to broil all their accomplishment down into a single number so people that don't follow or understand recruiting can try to learn what they don't know-I did that off the top of my head

Your analysis is asinine b/c of your blind hatred of a program that was too good for your fourth tier talent offspring.

Tyler Page = P5 offers

Alan Ali = P5 offers

Hayden Howerton = P5 offers

Judah Bell = P5 offer

D.J. Gillins = P5 offers (chose SMU over Ole Miss late)

Kayce Medlock = P5 offers

Matthew Huhn = P5 offers

Toby Ndukwe = P5 offers

Austin Upshaw = was committed to Memphis; flipped him from a conference rival; unanimous District MVP at the 6A level

Throw in P5 transfers Peavy, Quinn, and Epps that can play right away next year. This class would've been the best SMU class under any of the post DP coaches despite being small in numbers.

Losing the TE and the QB from Austin did not bother me that much. I know everyone on here loved them, but I will have an "I old you so" on the QB. He is not the right QB for our system - Chad just loved the family. The TE could produce at Texas, but there are faster options there for a p-5 so I would guess he will get recruited over. I think he made a mistake.

The one that hurts to me is the LB to Houston. We needed him bad, and he would have played for us earlier I would guess - so I don't really get his decision.

Pretty solid class due to the transfers. I think we will win 8 games next year - so hopefully that gives us a boost. Unfortunately 80% will be committed before they know about our momentum.

Stallion wrote:Don't really accept your premise-here some facts-these are other ways our recruits have been described

former 4 Star QB transfer-National Top 250
former 4 Star JUCO QB-National Top 250
former 4 star WR transfer-National Top 100
former 3 star JUCO TE/No. 1 JUCO TE in Country
JUCO All-American DE as a Freshman
5A First Team All State Safety/All DFW Metroplex First Team
Houston Touchdown Club Finalist QB/ First team All Greater Houston
Texas Top 50 Offensive Lineman
Texas Top 100 Offensive lineman
First team All 6A Offensive Lineman-22 offers too
2 Time First Team Private All-State LB
3 Star CB
3 Star CB/S
5A District MVP RB/LB
USA No. 1 WR in catches/yardage/3rd All-Time in Texas
First Team All-East Texas/Texas Top 100/4A All State WR
Defensive MVP in the 5A State Championship Game/ First Team All DFW Metroplex
Defensive MVP in 5A State Championship Part Deux
Unanimous 6A District MVP

just depends if you want to broil all their accomplishment down into a single number so people that don't follow or understand recruiting can try to learn what you don't know-I did that off the top of my head

Confirmation bias to cover up reality.

Now you'll magically use headlines like 'defensive mvp in championship game', or 'USA No.1 WR in catches..', to ignore offers, rankings, and all the other things you previously stated as most important......haha

Love it. You go ahead and provide the last word as always.

See you in the Spring.

StallionsModelT wrote:Your analysis is asinine b/c of your blind hatred of a program that was too good for your fourth tier talent offspring.

Tyler Page = P5 offers

Alan Ali = P5 offers

Hayden Howerton = P5 offers

Judah Bell = P5 offer

D.J. Gillins = P5 offers (chose SMU over Ole Miss late)

Kayce Medlock = P5 offers

Matthew Huhn = P5 offers

Toby Ndukwe = P5 offers

Austin Upshaw = was committed to Memphis; flipped him from a conference rival; unanimous District MVP at the 6A level

Throw in P5 transfers Peavy, Quinn, and Epps that can play right away next year. This class would've been the best SMU class under any of the post DP coaches despite being small in numbers.

Grrrrrrrr, why you mad son?

I didn't make up the lowly rankings for this class. Take your beef to 247, Scout, etc. The OL was very good, just like I said. DB's Ok. The rest weak.

Put whatever lipstick you want on this pig. See you in the Spring!

Bottom Line-Chad is going to Bowl in Year 3 and your son ain't on the Travel Squad

BTW I won that bet when I said in Year 1 that Darrell Colbert would never start a meaningful game at QB at the FBS level in his career-you criticized me for years about that but guess what I was right

16 out of SMU 22 recruits/transfers have been 3+ star on at least 1 major recruiting service

I'd probably use "Grrrrrrrr" on an internet message board too if I hung my entire existence on my kid that couldn't walk and chew gum at the same time. Man is the measure of all things I guess.