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jimhagle wrote:Message to AD Hart and Jank -both of you make a decision and let us in on it. Stop dragging these things out.

Agreed!

jimhagle wrote:Message to AD Hart and Jank -both of you make a decision and let us in on it. Stop dragging these things out.

Would it not be McMurray's decision to make? Then approved by Jank/Hart?

Besides...Hart's a little busy this weekend.

I seriously doubt McMurray wants to sit out this season. And Hart is so busy he seemingly isn't getting anything done so far.

jimhagle wrote:I seriously doubt McMurray wants to sit out this season. And Hart is so busy he seemingly isn't getting anything done so far.

But the my question remains....WHO has the ultimate say? Athlete or school?

The athlete ultimately decides with direction from the coach.

The coach has the ability to play the player. The player cannot go into a game on his own. Decision is 100% coach, but he should do it with the agreement of the player or the player might leave.

mrydel wrote:The coach has the ability to play the player. The player cannot go into a game on his own. Decision is 100% coach, but he should do it with the agreement of the player or the player might leave.

To me that leave the ultimate decision with the player...albeit knowing the consequences.

A coaches career depends on having the right players at the right time in the right positions. The coach makes the decision. The only time I have seen a player make the decision is during recruiting if it is a condition of commitment.

A coach cannot force an athlete to stay any longer than the athlete is willing to stay. However, an athlete cannot participate in an athletic competition without the coach inserting him/her. That is why I say that it is the athlete's decision, but ultimately directed by the coach. I red-shirted my freshman season and it was an open dialogue with the coach.

As thin as we are this year and Landrum looking like he isn't near ready( or he isn't that good) we need him desperately to play and play well.

I redshirted and there was not much discussion. Not allowing me to dress for the games kind of settled any discussion before it ever started.

mrydel wrote:I redshirted and there was not much discussion. Not allowing me to dress for the games kind of settled any discussion before it ever started.

No redshirt here...but then with a 10 year "career" on the Hilltop....why waste time?

jimhagle wrote:As thin as we are this year and Landrum looking like he isn't near ready( or he isn't that good) we need him desperately to play and play well.

Eli is going to be a very good player. Great hands, great engine. Very quick, very athletic, great leap. His shot isn't falling yet, but it is a good shot. Going through what Gu did before conference play last year. He will be very good in the long term. I see a lot more from him than I saw in Sed a couple of years ago.

Sed is averaging 10 points, 3 assist and 2.5 rebounds per game. 34% from the field and 23% from 3.

LA_Mustang wrote:Sed is averaging 10 points, 3 assist and 2.5 rebounds per game. 34% from the field and 23% from 3.

And his defense? I watched a little Utah ball last year. He played darn near zero D. Little wonder he was in LB’s doghouse.