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Ben E and J Martin

Postby Junior » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:02 pm

I'm not an expert, but these guys just don't seem to have made an impact to me. Am I missing something? It seems like there were much higher expectations for them than what they have delivered on the court so far.
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby 50's PONY » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:45 pm

Agreed!
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby jimhagle » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:50 pm

Ben E barely played last night and Martin looks lost.
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Ben E and J Martin

Postby GiddyUp » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:50 pm

It's early but I would've expected more. I don't think anybody really knows what the role is right now
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby Mustang11 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:47 pm

They just look lost in the system. Team is not meshing well. I know it is early and I am hoping this seven game home stretch will help this team get back on track. A hostile Moody will help...
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby ojaipony » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:57 pm

JMart's play has surprised me. BenE not so much (he's been in the system a VERY short period of time). But JMart is a seasoned vet. I have a feeling his ankle and/or his "wind" is not 100% quite yet. I would still start him (and definitely Sterling).
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby Rebel10 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:59 pm

ojaipony wrote:JMart's play has surprised me. BenE not so much (he's been in the system a VERY short period of time). But JMart is a seasoned vet. I have a feeling his ankle and/or his "wind" is not 100% quite yet. I would still start him (and definitely Sterling).

Martin and Ben E. having been practicing in this system about the same amount of time. Both got here in the summer.
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby ponyswim » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:13 pm

I'm pretty sure that Larry said that Martin enrolled late and has not had the whole summer with the team. Plus he missed a lot of time and both scrimmages because of his ankle.
I would expect him to adapt over the next few games and be a solid contributor.
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby Rebel10 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:27 pm

I anyone got here late you would think it would be Ben E. because he did not even decide to come to SMU until after Mudiay went pro over the summer..
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby ponyswim » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:36 pm

I am well aware of the timing of their decisions. That does not mean Justin enrolled at the beginning of the summer and practiced with them all summer. I specifically remember Larry talking about how Justin enrolled "late." That may have been just the last part of summer school - not sure.
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby mrydel » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:42 pm

I do not think Martin enrolled late. He decided not to enroll early. They probably both came in at the same time.
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby hoopmanx » Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:20 am

We have a lot of long SG/SFs that are pretty much the same player. Frazier may shoot better than Brown, Brown does everything else a little better etc. Ben E is pretty much like Brown and JMart is non-descript. Tough to define roles when all these kids offer the same thing roughly
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby Lebanese4Life » Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:19 pm

i still think Emelogu will be a key player for us down the stretch.. but he needs to find his jumper, but i like his game. tough, hard-nosed kid
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Re: Ben E and J Martin

Postby JasonB » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:30 pm

hoopmanx wrote:We have a lot of long SG/SFs that are pretty much the same player. Frazier may shoot better than Brown, Brown does everything else a little better etc. Ben E is pretty much like Brown and JMart is non-descript. Tough to define roles when all these kids offer the same thing roughly


Agreed, but it could become a strength eventually because with all the touch fouls that are called now, the wing is a really important position. Our big struggle (and I missed the last two games, so take it for what it is worth) is getting that 3 to contribute to rebounding. Martin has potential, and Sterling can do it. I would expect to see those two rotate at the three the rest of the way, and keep Ben E and Keith at the 2.
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