Official: ALL OF THE MARBLES THREAD (SMU vs. Tulsa)

[ojaipony]

Last time we had an "all the marbles" game against Tulsa at Moody was in 1998. I was there. I'm sure many on here remember the hideous ending of that one. I've been waiting 17 years for some payback. Let's get the job done!

I was there. And remember it well. In fact, I remember Tulsa beating us quite a bit back then - they always seemed to have had better athletes.

[Arkpony]

Not this year!

[PonyTime]

Last time we had an "all the marbles" game against Tulsa at Moody was in 1998. I was there. I'm sure many on here remember the hideous ending of that one. I've been waiting 17 years for some payback. Let's get the job done!

I was there. And remember it well. In fact, I remember Tulsa beating us quite a bit back then - they always seemed to have had better athletes.

I was there too - For those who did not have the chance to enjoy that disaster of a game (15of 30 from the line) it was in 2000 and it was double OT:

Tulsa vs. Southern Methodist
Box Score Game Story
Mar 04, 2000

NCAA BB FINAL IN 2ND OT


1ST 2ND 1OT 2OT TOTAL
--- --- --- --- -----
TULSA (17) 30 33 6 14 83
SMU 27 36 6 9 78 FINAL IN 2ND OT

HIGH SCORERS: TULSA - TONY HEARD 24, DAVID SHELTON 18, BRANDON
KURTZ 15
SMU - WILLIE DAVIS 23, JERYL SASSER 15, DAMON
HANCOCK 14

HIGH REBOUND: TULSA - BRANDON KURTZ 18, ERIC COLEY 9
SMU - WILLIE DAVIS 10, JERYL SASSER 10

HIGH ASSISTS: TULSA - GREG HARRINGTON 6, ERIC COLEY 5
SMU - STEPHEN WOODS 4, TWO PLAYERS WITH 2

ATT: 8,998

Box Score

TULSA (83)
fg ft rb
min m-a m-a o-t a pf tp
Hill 31 4-9 2-3 0-4 0 4 11
Heard 47 7-14 5-5 2-6 3 4 24
Kurtz 45 4-9 7-10 7-18 4 3 15
Harrington 33 1-4 0-0 0-2 6 2 3
Coley 37 2-7 3-4 1-9 5 4 7
Davis 1 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0
Swanson 16 1-1 1-1 0-2 2 1 3
Shelton 34 5-13 6-10 2-4 0 4 18
Johnson 2 1-1 0-1 1-1 0 0 2
Mcdaniel 4 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 1 0
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TOTALS 250 25-58 24-34 13-46 20 23 83
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Percentages: FG-.431, FT-.706. 3-Point Goals:
9-21, .429 (Hill 1-4, Heard 5-10, Harrington 1-3,
Coley 0-2, Shelton 2-2). Team rebounds: 4.
Blocked shots: 5 (Kurtz 3, Shelton, Coley).
Turnovers: 27 (Heard 10, Kurtz 7, Harrington 3,
Hill 2, Shelton 2, Swanson 2, Mcdaniel). Steals:
8 (Coley 4, Kurtz 2, Shelton, Swanson).

SMU (78)
fg ft rb
min m-a m-a o-t a pf tp
Davis 48 9-17 5-8 5-10 1 3 23
Sasser 41 5-19 5-10 5-10 2 2 15
Floyd 11 0-4 0-0 1-1 0 1 0
Anderson 2 1-1 0-0 0-0 0 1 3
Woods 41 4-11 1-3 1-5 4 5 11
Hancock 41 5-13 3-7 2-8 2 3 14
Ross 25 3-5 0-0 2-3 1 1 7
Nabity 1 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0
Broer 1 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0
Forinash 10 0-0 1-2 1-3 0 2 1
Niemi 29 2-5 0-0 3-4 1 5 4
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TOTALS 250 29-75 15-30 20-44 11 23 78
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Percentages: FG-.387, FT-.500. 3-Point Goals:
5-20, .250 (Davis 0-2, Sasser 0-5, Floyd 0-1,
Anderson 1-1, Woods 2-6, Hancock 1-3, Ross 1-2).
Team rebounds: None. Blocked shots: 5 (Davis,
Sasser, Ross, Forinash, Niemi). Turnovers: 14
(Sasser 5, Hancock 3, Ross 2, Davis, Forinash,
Niemi, Woods). Steals: 18 (Davis 8, Ross 5,
Hancock 2, Sasser 2, Woods).
____________________________________________
Tulsa 30 33 6 14 - 83
Smu 27 36 6 9 - 78
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Technical fouls: None. A: 8,998. Officials:
Keith Maxwell, Derrick Collins, Mike Giarratano.

Game Story

DALLAS (Ticker) -- Tony Heard scored 24 points and David Shelton
added 18 as 17th-ranked Tulsa clinched the Western Athletic
Conference regular-season title with its ninth straight victory
over Southern Methodist, 83-78, in double overtime.

Tulsa (27-3, 12-2 WAC) won its first regular-season title since
capturing the Missouri Valley Conference in 1994-95 and will be
the top seed in next week's WAC Tournament. The Golden
Hurricane are 8-3 against the Mustangs in Dallas and have not
lost to them since December 28, 1963.

Jeryl Sasser's jumper with 32 seconds left in regulation put SMU
ahead 63-30, but Tulsa forced overtime when Tony Heard drilled a
3-pointer with two seconds left.

SMU had a chance to take the lead late in the first overtime,
but Sasser missed a pair of free throws with 12 seconds left.
Heard missed a 3-pointer in the closing seconds.

The Golden Hurricane cruised in the second overtime, opening a
79-70 lead with 29 seconds left thanks to a 10-1 run. Eric
Coley scored four points in that spurt and SMU missed its first
six attempts from the field.

Brandon Kurtz had 15 points and 18 rebounds in 45 minutes with
Marcus Hill adding 11 points as the Golden Hurricane improved to
13-4 all-time against the Mustangs.

Heard played 47 minutes and was 7-of-14 from the floor to help
Tulsa shoot 43 percent (25-of-58), including 52 percent
(11-of-21) in the second half.

The Golden Hurricane survived despite allowing 20 offensive
rebounds and committing 27 turnovers.

Willie Davis had 23 points and 10 rebounds for his 12th
double-double of the season and Sasser added 15 and 10 for SMU
(21-7, 9-5), which will be the third seed in the conference
tournament.

The Mustangs did not help themselves on the line, making just
15-of-30. They entered the contest shooting 66 percent from the
stripe, second to last in the league, and dropped their second
straight after winning five in a row.

"I am proud of the way we played," SMU coach Mike Dement said.
"We played to exhaustion and had chances to win the game, but we
struggled from the free throw line. We didn't have anything
left in the tank in the second overtime after fighting back so
hard for so long."

The crowd of 8,998 was the most for SMU against a WAC opponent
in school history.

[1983 Cotton Bowl]

OK, I think I'm remembering a different game. I was thinking of the game where we had a lead on Tulsa with like 4 seconds left and they had to go the length of the court. The Tulsa guy got the ball dribbled down the court, we had a complete defensive breakdown, and he just sailed in for an uncontested layup as time expired. I'm getting old, but I thought that one was in 1998. For some reason, I seem to remember Stephen Woods trying to amp up the crowd in the timeout right before the red-carpet meltdown. Am I thinking of a different game, or the 2000 game?

[Harry0569]

OK, I think I'm remembering a different game. I was thinking of the game where we had a lead on Tulsa with like 4 seconds left and they had to go the length of the court. The Tulsa guy got the ball dribbled down the court, we had a complete defensive breakdown, and he just sailed in for an uncontested layup as time expired. I'm getting old, but I thought that one was in 1998. For some reason, I seem to remember Stephen Woods trying to amp up the crowd in the timeout right before the red-carpet meltdown. Am I thinking of a different game, or the 2000 game?

2008

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=280192567

I believe you are referencing this game, which I went to.

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DALLAS (AP) -- Brett McDade's jumper with no time remaining Saturday gave Tulsa a 72-71 victory over SMU on Saturday night.

Glenn Andrews scored 24 points off the bench for the Golden Hurricane (9-6, 1-2 Conference) in a game that featured lead changes on four consecutive possessions in the final 1:02.

Jon Killen led SMU (6-10, 0-3) with 19 points on 8-of-12 shooting, and Papa Dia came off the bench to score 18 on 7-of-11 shooting with seven rebounds.

The Mustangs went ahead 71-70 on two free throws by Derrick Roberts with seven seconds left before McDade beat them on the other end.

The back-and-forth exchange in the final minute started with a 3-pointer by Killen that put SMU ahead 69-68 with 1:02 remaining. Tulsa nearly ran out the shot clock on the next possession before Jerome Jordan rebounded a missed shot and scored for a 70-69 lead with 28 seconds left.

The Golden Hurricane led by eight at 46-38 when Glenn Andrews hit a 3-pointer with 15:07 remaining, but SMU chipped away, taking its first lead at 55-53 on a Killen jumper with 10:56 remaining.

Both teams shot better than 50 percent from the field, including from 3-point range.

[Ponyneighbor]

To the point raised earlier, I'm not sure I understand why teams shoot threes so well against us. Early in the year I thought it was strategy (packing the paint and leaving people open). More recently it seems like we have done a good job of extending the defense, but it hasn't seemed to change the results. Is it that people can easily shoot over one of our guards? Are we still packing the paint? Just wondering if there is an adjustment that should be made that we are not making.

[Stallion]

SMU is in about the Top 21% of all NCAA teams in 3 point Defensive %. Teams shoot a lot of 3s against SMU -in fact SMU opponent's have shot more 3s against SMU than all but 4 out of 345 teams-and those 4 teams are all in minor conferences. Rarely a bunch go in-usually at their home court. Don't know how many times this has to be brought up. TEAMS DON'T SHOOT 3 POINTERS PARTICULARLY WELL against SMU-they just shoot a lot of them. 5-9 Point Guard doesn't help.

[Pony_Law]

To the point raised earlier, I'm not sure I understand why teams shoot threes so well against us. Early in the year I thought it was strategy (packing the paint and leaving people open). More recently it seems like we have done a good job of extending the defense, but it hasn't seemed to change the results. Is it that people can easily shoot over one of our guards? Are we still packing the paint? Just wondering if there is an adjustment that should be made that we are not making.

Teams are shooting a lot of threes against us because 1) we have really good defensive bigs that stop interior offense and 2) our guards are really good at stopping dribble penetration. It is really rare for anyone on our team to get beat of the dribble as a result the best available option is long range shooting. If teams are taking a lot of threes against you it is either a)your transition defense is terrible and leaves wide open shooters or b) they cannot get inside. We have excellent transition defense

[Pony ^]

finally got an email about the game. Forgot it's daylight savings. wear white.

[SmooBoy]

So for any students on this board, are many sticking around for Tulsa on Sunday, Senior Day? I realize Spring Break will have started. It will be a bit of a let down to see a less-than-full MOB section and baseline seats.

[skyscraper]

Excellent email from the department about the game.
And yes, it's been mentioned numerous times it's Spring Break so no the student sections aren't going to be like UCONN or Temple.
Up to the red seats and 200s to be rowdy.

[Smerkins]

So for any students on this board, are many sticking around for Tulsa on Sunday, Senior Day? I realize Spring Break will have started. It will be a bit of a let down to see a less-than-full MOB section and baseline seats.

I really don't think there will be many students there. Maybe enough to fill up 112. Maybe.

I will of course be there, missing two nights on my hotel reservation and canceling my stop in NOLA. Leaving immediately after the game for a 12 hour drive to PCB. The things I do for the Stangs.....

[Pony ^]

worried it will be just like first half temple.

[gostangs]

Have heard of some students moving plans around to be there. Not 100's but I think the mob will be full.

[blackoutpony]

Have heard of some students moving plans around to be there. Not 100's but I think the mob will be full.

Give the tickets to young alumni in Dallas. Hell, I would pay to be able to get hellaciously wasted and be in the student section with all my old buddies.