Appeal timeline

[JasonB]

based upon this timeline above, the dates would be as follows:

9/29/15
10/14/15
11/13/15
11/27/15
12/27/15
1/26/16

and lets just assume

does ANYONE work the week of thanksgiving? how about the week between Christmas Eve and New Years Day, especial people that work at institutes of higher learning when that's their break.

the appeals committee seems very smart/well educated, and other than the lady at UT, the other 4 are small/private school types. all with other jobs. other than Syracuse, what other appeals are currently pending? anyone know?

Also, keep in mind that the guidelines suggest an 8 week investigation timeline, but this one took 10. And this is the first time the new process has been put into place, so there will be inefficiencies. And there are several other schools being investigated, so keeping up with the timeline seems to be a bit optimistic.

[mrydel]

Just thinking about the appeal.

Lets say we win the appeal and the postseason ban is next year not this year.

Could SMU just redshirt its entire team and play 10 walk-ons next year?

Our top players have already used their year via transfer. You would be accomplishing the same thing that no post season this year would by denying them the right to play.

[PonySnob]

junior, using those numbers i get 119 days = 17 weeks, referencing this article, 'cuse was handed down their sanctions on 3/6/15, and filed appeal on 3/21/15

that means that Syracuse, by that schedule, would have had their appeal wrapped up on JULY 18, 2015. it is now 10.5 weeks later and they still have not gotten a result. SO, lets just say they get their answer by saturday (doubtful) and it took 11 extra weeks to come to a conclusion, that means it took them 30 weeks. if we file on the 14th of october and it takes 30 weeks, that's May 11. we only need to stretch it to 25 weeks which is 2 days after the championship game.

Guessing the NCAA will find a way to speed up the appeal process for SMU


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[CoxMustangFan]

junior, using those numbers i get 119 days = 17 weeks, referencing this article, 'cuse was handed down their sanctions on 3/6/15, and filed appeal on 3/21/15

that means that Syracuse, by that schedule, would have had their appeal wrapped up on JULY 18, 2015. it is now 10.5 weeks later and they still have not gotten a result. SO, lets just say they get their answer by saturday (doubtful) and it took 11 extra weeks to come to a conclusion, that means it took them 30 weeks. if we file on the 14th of october and it takes 30 weeks, that's May 11. we only need to stretch it to 25 weeks which is 2 days after the championship game.

Guessing the NCAA will find a way to speed up the appeal process for SMU


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They at least owe us that much!

[shadowman]

junior, using those numbers i get 119 days = 17 weeks, referencing this article, 'cuse was handed down their sanctions on 3/6/15, and filed appeal on 3/21/15

that means that Syracuse, by that schedule, would have had their appeal wrapped up on JULY 18, 2015. it is now 10.5 weeks later and they still have not gotten a result. SO, lets just say they get their answer by saturday (doubtful) and it took 11 extra weeks to come to a conclusion, that means it took them 30 weeks. if we file on the 14th of october and it takes 30 weeks, that's May 11. we only need to stretch it to 25 weeks which is 2 days after the championship game.

Guessing the NCAA will find a way to speed up the appeal process for SMU


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They at least owe us that much!

This is a rare instance where we want them to be slow. If we win, anytime is fine, but if we lose we need that decision in April at the earliest.

[hoopmanx]

If we appeal, no way I see us getting banned this postseason. The NCAA hater backlash has already been pretty severe, but then to let these kids play, win, and become a tourney story, justo yank it away in late Feb or March, is just bad pr form. they'd be vilified by everyone as being anti student athlete etc.

[RGV Pony]

I could see them saying "if it was any school but smu we would certainly reconsider the sanctions. But SMUs track record is so egregious, combined with the responsibility that must be assumed by the head coach and his prior transgressions, we have no choice but to set an example that there is simply no tolerance for academic fraud. "

[skyscraper]

There's no drawback to appealing, IMO.
We appeal, we should push it back past March and get our seniors a chance to go dancing again.
If the NCAA does stay firm to its timeline and deny us in February, the uproar would be unreal and we become America's darlings - and there's no postseason ban for 16-17 when we'd go on a scorched earth F-everyone rampage through the schedule.

[Dutch]

If we appeal, no way I see us getting banned this postseason. The NCAA hater backlash has already been pretty severe, but then to let these kids play, win, and become a tourney story, justo yank it away in late Feb or March, is just bad pr form. they'd be vilified by everyone as being anti student athlete etc.

exactly. and internally, they know that even if they didn't like it, it would be a story, just like we made headlines for the snub in '14 then burned through the NIT. and we made headlines when we FINALLY made it last year only to get screwed on a botched call (not that it should have come down to one play). SMU makes news, news gets attention, attention gets people watching games/teams they may otherwise not, and bottom line, that means $ to the NCAA, they may not like us, but they're not dumb when it comes to their pocketbook.

[Junior]

based upon this timeline above, the dates would be as follows:

9/29/15
10/14/15
11/13/15
11/27/15
12/27/15
1/26/16

and lets just assume

does ANYONE work the week of thanksgiving? how about the week between Christmas Eve and New Years Day, especial people that work at institutes of higher learning when that's their break.

the appeals committee seems very smart/well educated, and other than the lady at UT, the other 4 are small/private school types. all with other jobs. other than Syracuse, what other appeals are currently pending? anyone know?

i wasn't disagreeing. i was just laying it out as a starting point to see how much the holidays would most likely impact the schedule. if you look at my post right before the timeline, i say it should easily stretch into March. i don't think there's any way they meeting the strict "timeline" dates.

[Grant Carter]

If we are looking likely to make the tourney then they will move fast to keep the ban in place. If we are looking likely to miss it then they will move slow so the ban ends up being in place for the next year.

[gostangs]

We can also choose to only appeal certain parts which is what is likely. We will appeal post season and also appeal total scholarship reduction. Larry will sit out first 9 of this season either way.

[ponydawg]

If that is the case, Larry will miss Indiana and Michigan. Will be interesting to see Jank in action when he knows its all him.

[JasonB]

We can also choose to only appeal certain parts which is what is likely. We will appeal post season and also appeal total scholarship reduction. Larry will sit out first 9 of this season either way.

Just 9 games, right? Is there anything that states it has to be consecutive or at the start of the season?

[Rebel10]

Syracuse appealed 7 months ago and still has not had a hearing per ESPN. They were saying if SMU made an appeal they would probably have a chance for the senior to play in the tournament if things go as long as the Syracuse appeal.