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Re: Ben E II

Postby sadderbudweiser » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:36 am

hoopmanx wrote:A better thread would be all the [deleted] haters signing in and apologizing to Gu, specifically analytics turds who could never really find an algorhythm to make sense of how good he actually is. Those who chimed in that he should grad transfer after this season deserve a PF ban for a month


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Re: Ben E II

Postby SMUstangs22 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:38 am

There has been nothing but love for Gu. Anything that says otherwise is fake news
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Re: Ben E II

Postby PonyFan32 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:14 am

SMUstangs22 wrote:There has been nothing but love for Gu. Anything that says otherwise is fake news


*too busy stuffing PF hate for Emelogu down the memory hole*
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Re: Ben E II

Postby Pony_Law » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:16 am

Obviously Ben has not been a consistent scorer like we all hoped he would be based on his Freshman stats, but I think everyone has appreciated his defense and hard work. He is a solid role player on this team and has been so for a while.
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Re: Ben E II

Postby MFFL02 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:37 am

How did Ben E shoot 37% on 3's at VT? If he could replicate that here, that would be huge.
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Re: Ben E II

Postby MFFL02 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:37 am

Ben provided a nice, assertive spark yesterday on the offensive end to initiate that run. It was huge!
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Re: Ben E II

Postby gostangs » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:38 am

Ben shoots just fine this year. No idea why people think otherwise
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Re: Ben E II

Postby flockofseagulls » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:41 am

hoopmanx wrote:A better thread would be all the [deleted] haters signing in and apologizing to Gu, specifically analytics turds who could never really find an algorhythm to make sense of how good he actually is. Those who chimed in that he should grad transfer after this season deserve a PF ban for a month


pretty sure someone called me "mr. stats guy" when i was trying to articulate that he shouldn't have a perpetual green light from behind the arc. so i'm probably your "analytics turd" as well. he had a phenomenal game. he still shouldn't have a no-questions-asked unlimited pass for 3s. probably only 20 guys in college bball should.

he always plays great defense. always moves the ball well. but his best offensive outings come when he gets looks in the paint (or at least inside the arc). he shouldn't be looking for 3s all the time. i stand by it. he should try and get to the rim a little more. get to the line. easy shots. threes start falling more. he's like keith was in that regard (and in that regard only).

he got 3 looks inside the arc and 2 free throws. i think that went a long way to his great game. i'm sorry if those "analytics" gave anyone an aneurysm.
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Re: Ben E II

Postby hoopmanx » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:51 am

My statement wasn't aimed at you but rather a fanbase who consistently hates the kid for being the GU in glue. He should shoot anytime it's a good look within the offense, that simple. He's one of our better shooters in practice, so the only rule is, stay confident and keep stroking. Everything else is analytics nonsense. Getting into the lane is fine and dandy and I'm sure we'd prefer everyone on the roster to have 8 footers as opposed to 20, but that's not the real world, so if it's in the rhythm of what we're running, fire away. You guys make up arbitrary rules based off perceived stats and pretend like coaches give an ish.
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Re: Ben E II

Postby gostangs » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:56 am

exactly - its not too complicated. If you are really open, shoot the ball.
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Re: Ben E II

Postby Stallion » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:59 am

MFFL02 wrote:How did Ben E shoot 37% on 3's at VT? If he could replicate that here, that would be huge.


that's probably about what he has been shooting since December 20th or so when semester ended
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Re: Ben E II

Postby Stallion » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:04 pm

Gu is hitting 39% from 3 since the December 19th Stanford game
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Re: Ben E II

Postby Junior » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:49 pm

I've been a constant Gu supporter. But it's all been about energy, hustle and D. Glad he added some crucial baskets to it tonight. He was awesome!
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Re: Ben E II

Postby AfricanMustang » Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:04 pm

But SMU head coach Tim Jankovich doesn’t want to hear about that.

Instead, he will mention Emelogu’s underappreciated contributions. Like his six-assist game vs. East Carolina on Feb. 1 that went unnoticed because he scored just three of SMU’s 86 points. Or the 11 second-half points he provided vs. Houston on Jan. 21 – in place of Jarrey Foster – overshadowed by Shake Milton and Semi Ojeleye’s 47 combined points.

“So many times a guy is playing terrific, I mean terrific, and not scoring a lot of points or doesn’t have a great scoring night,” Jankovich said. “Ben is underappreciated by a lot of people, but not by his teammates and not by our staff. He guards like crazy, he’s very smart, he’s in the right place, he makes plays for others, he’s tough and he’s a very good passer.”

In Sunday’s 60-51 win, though, underappreciated doesn’t apply, because he scored. He made both his 3-point tries and scored seven of his points during SMU’s 15-0 second-half run that gave the Mustangs the lead for good.

Minutes earlier, Emelogu was on the floor for Cincinnati’s 12-0 run at the start of the second half. He gave up a 3 to Jacob Evans when he didn’t rotate over in time. The run started when he replaced Sterling Brown after Brown picked up his third foul a minute into the half. SMU’s biggest opportunity of the season was slipping away, and someone needed to do something about it.

Then, out of nowhere, Emelogu did just that. For the first time this season, the player whose best games get overlooked stepped into the role that’s impossible to overlook.

And then he created the opportunity to yell.

First, a 3-pointer to snap the Cincinnati run. An assist on Semi Ojeleye’s 3-pointer to bring SMU within three points. A steal to set up Shake Milton’s 3-pointer that tied the score at 40. A free throw that put SMU ahead 41-40. The second 3-pointer that put SMU up by four. And to cap it off, an offensive rebound and assist on Brown’s tip-in that forced Cincinnati to call a timeout.

Just like that, SMU led by six points.

“Today, the opportunity really presented itself,” Emelogu said. “This was the game where I seized the opportunity.”

Jankovich too is, obviously, thrilled that confidence showed up in the form of points. SMU doesn’t come back to win without Emelogu’s scoring. But he’s more thrilled that this time, Emelogu’s strong play was obvious enough to warrant attention.

“He’s a heck of a player. When he scores, he’s a really, really good player,” Jankovich said. “I love it when he scores because they start looking at him. He deserves to be looked at.”

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Re: Ben E II

Postby ojaipony » Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:24 pm

I've always said he is a good defender and strong as an ox, especially at his position. Especially mature/experienced, just seemed to lack confidence in his shot. I hope this game is the start of something good for him (with his shot) because he definitely has the ability. Glad to see it, keep at it young man.
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