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Dutch wrote:

mustangxc wrote:

mtrout wrote:We had one / have one sitting in town. Fudging his situation up was a more egregious error than the reseat IMO. The combination of both mistakes is immeasurable.

What unemployed hall of fame basketball coach lives in Dallas?

larry lives here. he's been at practices a bunch this fall.

He is coaching in Italy so he doesn't live here. He may still have a house here.

mustangxc wrote:

Dutch wrote:

mustangxc wrote:[quote="mtrout"]We had one / have one sitting in town. Fudging his situation up was a more egregious error than the reseat IMO. The combination of both mistakes is immeasurable.

What unemployed hall of fame basketball coach lives in Dallas?

larry lives here. he's been at practices a bunch this fall.

He is coaching in Italy so he doesn't live here. He may still have a house here.[/quote]

Weird I saw him a few days ago in Dallas

He took a job overseas, but recently had surgery and that's why he's in Dallas. He's hanging out here while he recovers. Who knows if he actually shows up in Italy.
Since football has been rolled into this, I'll just say this -- in all of our hearts, we know we won't be able to compete at a top level in football. But we can in basketball and we know it because it was happening less than 24 months ago. To see it crumble so quickly and with the added gutpunch of a blatant cash grab from the AD as it falls apart was insulting. Even more insulting is the AD now telling us to suck it up and show up anyway.

Here is Jank's record since Milton got hurt after the East Carolina game last year.

Of course Foster got hurt to, but it is pretty eye opening.

Wins - 5
Loses - 11
Home losses - 9

Add the reseat and you have an attendance nightmare.

PonyTime wrote:

mustangxc wrote:

mtrout wrote:We had one / have one sitting in town. Fudging his situation up was a more egregious error than the reseat IMO. The combination of both mistakes is immeasurable.

What unemployed hall of fame basketball coach lives in Dallas?

Since Don Nelson moved to Hawaii to grow Pot on his farm, I am guessing Robert Hughes Sr. - but he lives in Ft. Worth and is 90 years old.

Growing pot legally on a farm in Hawaii
I would invest heavily in.

Larry Brown was the best thing that happened to SMU athletics since Eric Dickerson. Probably top 5 all time. We should have done whatever he needed to keep him. I blame this squarely on the admin. It's all very sad where we were 2-3 years ago to now. That home game to win the regular season title against Tulsa was the most amazing sporting event I've ever attended - completely lost my voice. (And I was there when we damn near beat a top 5 Arky team that won the natty when we were mediocre at best in the early 90s).

The economics are against us in football, but we can definitely be elite in basketball. We were certainly trending that way. What's the one thing that happened? LB left. I wish we had gotten him about 2 years earlier and had a better succession plan with a younger, hungrier guy than Jank.

ojaipony wrote:We should have done whatever he needed to keep him. I blame this squarely on the admin.

This take is not grounded in reality.

PonyKai wrote:

ojaipony wrote:We should have done whatever he needed to keep him. I blame this squarely on the admin.

This take is not grounded in reality.

Yes, it's grounded in reality. You obviously are not.

Stallion wrote:I've gone to 99.99% of all SMU football games in the last 55 years or so whether we were competing for National Championships or competing for the Toilet Bowl and only slightly less in basketball because between about 2002-2008

Stallion- I'm going to call you out on that LIE!!. The only person I know who has that kind of attendance % is Paul Lane. I know Paul Lane and you are no Paul Lane.
PROOF: since 1968 SMU has played 555 games including bowl games. This would mean that you have not missed even a quarter of one of these games (99.99 = attendance at 554.45 games). Source- sports-reference.com/cfb. I seriously doubt if you have attended all of the following away games. If I am wrong then prove it.
Here are the away games I would question your attendance at:
1968- Ohio St.,
1969 -Ga. Tech, Michigan State
1970- Tenn., Northwestern
1971- Missouri, Air Force
1972- Florida, Va. Tech
1973- Oregon St.
1974 Ohio St.
1975- Florida
1976- Alabama,Memphis
1978- Florida, Penn.. St. , Ohio St
1983- Alabama
1985- Arizona,
1986- ND
1991- Vanderbilt
1993- Navy
1995- Wisconsin
1996- Brigham Young, Wyoming
1997- Utah
1998- Hawaii, Wyoming, Air Force, Navy
2000- N.C. State, Hawaii, Fresno State
2003- Nevada, San Jose St.
2005- UAB, Marshall

If David Miller et al permit this bball coaching disaster to continue after this year then Moody will be like a morgue. Our mental hernia of an AD and his helpers destroyed the continuity of the program when they ran off LB. It has been downhill since then and the record speaks for itself.
When you schedule a group of patsies for OOC and then get your tail handed to you it is obvious that the coaching and recruiting are more than just suspect.

MV pony wrote:

PonyKai wrote:

ojaipony wrote:We should have done whatever he needed to keep him. I blame this squarely on the admin.

This take is not grounded in reality.

Yes, it's grounded in reality. You obviously are not.

Try harder next time.

red pony - i saw Stallion at the last two games you mentioned - did not know him before that from 1978 until 2011 i missed only 3 games

MV pony wrote:

PonyKai wrote:

ojaipony wrote:We should have done whatever he needed to keep him. I blame this squarely on the admin.

This take is not grounded in reality.

Yes, it's grounded in reality. You obviously are not.

oh, please enlighten us on how the admin killed the deal when larry asked for an extension to his contract and we agreed, under the terms that should the team ever be placed under probation/sanctions again, or fall below the minimum APR (remember when everyone was tracking players class attendance b/c we were 1 point above the minimum? i do.) that he could be released for cause. larry didn't think that the school was treating him fairly b/c all he wanted to do was coach and not be bothered with kids grades or how he got recruits to campus. he quit w/o even telling his agent.

score: PonyKai 1; MV pony 0

Dutch and PonyKai are correct. Several things have been handled incorrectly recently involving basketball, but LB's departure isn't one of the them.

ponypatrick wrote:
So , what political office are you running for ?

I don't know. Would you vote for someone who thinks that most problems, like this one, are complex, believes that such problems require multifaceted solutions, doesn't claim to know the one thing that is to blame, and won't push a quick short term fix that feels satisfying but does little to solve the underlying issues?