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Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby ponydawg » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:49 pm

Someone posted this link on the "other" site but it got buried. It is Mark Cuban's blog post after he came to an SMU game back in 2014. READ IT. It makes you really proud of what we had. He not only talks about the electricity at Moody but he discusses his takeaways on SMU and what he practices from a sales/marketing POV. I wish this was the bible for SMU Athletics and they read this before making some key decisions over the last couple of years.

I bolded section 2 and 3 because that is where they dropped the ball.

http://blogmaverick.com/2014/02/23/my-2-cents-on-sports-marketing-and-what-i-learned-from-smu-basketball-this-week/

My 2 cents on Sports Marketing and what I learned from SMU Basketball this week
Posted on February 23, 2014

I had the pleasure of going to an SMU Basketball game this past week. It wasn’t a huge game from a standings perspective. It wasn’t a big rivalry game. It wasn’t a game between 2 powerhouse teams. It was an important game as every game is for an up and coming team like SMU. But there was no one outside the two teams that were really paying attention to the outcome. Bottom line, it was a game on the schedule.

It was a game on the schedule for every one but SMU basketball fans. For SMU basketball fans it was their chance to show off to any and all newcomers who walked into the gym. President Bush (43) was there. Dejuan Blair, Jae Crowder, Casey Smith and others from the Mavs were there (I had no idea they were going to be there). I ran into friends I hadn’t seen in a while. Mavs season ticket holders. It was a fun night to see and be seen. All in an arena that sits 7k .

I love watching any basketball game where I want a team to win (SMU), but will still sleep well if they don’t. I truly get to be a fan. (And no, I don’t scream at the refs. Thats for Mavs games only !). As I watched the game and people came up to me they all asked the same question. They didn’t ask me what I thought of the team and how it was playing. They didn’t ask me what I thought of the coach, Hall of Famer Larry Brown (although the media did ask me about him ). They didn’t ask me about the pro prospects of any player on either team. They didn’t ask me if I thought the team “Played basketball the right way”, a Coach Brown hallmark. They all asked me what I thought about the atmosphere at the arena.

They all wanted confirmation that this was truly a fun atmosphere. That it was now fun to go to an SMU game. They had a student section that was standing, yelling , taunting and cheering. Loudly. Continuously. They had fans that chanted defense. They went nuts as SMU broke open a tight game when their point guard came alive and starting hitting big shots.

Atmosphere. The electricity you feel when you walk into an arena. The uncertainty and anticipation of what will happen before , during and after the game, and most importantly the communal feelings that can only happen when thousands , if not tens of thousands of people share their emotions. That is what makes going to a game special and the smart people at SMU knew it.

There were no special apps that some programming whiz at SMU created. Nor was anyone asking for advanced stats. There was not a single consideration for any unique technology anywhere that I could see. None was suggested or presented to me. There were promos and replays and stats on the high def jumbotron. No one complained that it wasn’t enough.

While I saw plenty of instagrammed pictures from the game, they all seemed to come from before and after the game. The entire time the student section was standing up cheering I looked for phones. Was anyone using one ? Were they holding them up like they might do at a concert to get footage ? Nope. It’s hard to look at your phone or hold it up when you are clapping, stomping, screaming and pointing the entire time

Everyone in that arena knew exactly what was going on. They knew what the Seahawks fans knew. They knew what Mavs fans know. They know that they are not just observers, they are participants. Teams take pride in their “6th man” or their “12th man”. The fans that cheer them on and provide energy to help them rally through fatigue. The only people who take more pride than the teams in their 6th man are the fans themselves.

So how can sports marketers learn from all of this ? Here are some guidelines.

1. Know where your team is in their “lifecycle”.

Not every team is up and coming ala SMU. Not every team only has to fill 7k seats. When a team is first turning the corner, fans tend to not trust it. They expect that their team will revert to their past . I know it drives everyone in pro sports crazy when their team finally does well and fans don’t immediately respond. It is easier to engage fans when the team is turning a corner and winning is new, but you have to work hard at selling the fun of coming to an arena. The more seats you have to sell, the harder you have to work. Fans want a reason to get out of the house and have fun. But they are not going to find you. You have to find them.

If your team finds itself struggling, or if its expected to win you are in the same boat. Your hardcore fans are going to come. But you have to work harder than ever before to create value for you fans. It is during these times, when you can’t control what happens on the court, that you have to work hard to improve the game experience. Not by providing apps or stats. Fans who like those things know where to get them from other sources already. Not by focusing on creating online communities. Online communities are like talk radio. The same 200 people call and participate in both.

You have to invest in things that are universally fun for your customers and prospects. EVERYONE remembers their first game. EVERY parent gets unlimited joy from watching their child enjoy a sporting event. You have to make sure that the entertainment that you provide is not only family friendly, but also engaging for all the 6 to 12 year olds in the audience. If you think those kids care about basketball you are delusional. If you think those parents care more about basketball than keeping their kids entertained for 2 hours, you are delusional and should quit your job immediately. All you have to do is remember this – EVERYONE STANDS UP FOR T SHIRTS.

2. Know who your long time fans/customers are.

The delta between sell out and empty is typically 5k fans. You have to know who your ongoing season ticket holders are and respect and appreciate them. You can not do enough to reward them. It is hard to personally respond to 5k or more account holders, but it is something you have to work at. The greater the renewal rate the fewer the tickets you have to sell next year. Fans know when you care. You can’t fake it. It is hard work, but it has to be done. Know your customers and treat them like gold

3. Price to the market, not to maximize revenue.

The sports industry is changing. TV is becoming a growing revenue source while ticket sales are a declining percentage of total revenues of TV sports. IMHO, it is far more important to know the price points that will enable you to fill the arena than to know the price points that will max out your total revenue. Why ? Because winning matters. It is important to have fans in the stands. They impact your winning percentage. And personally, I believe that winning increases long term profitability.


It is also because fans know the pricing trends of your tickets better than you do. They know how to use travel sites to get best pricing. They know how to use ticket sites to get best pricing. Teams try to be democratic when it comes to game pricing. Thats an inefficiency that some fans and many ticket brokers know how to take advantage of. We hired a full time Data Analyst to continuously examine and review online pricing for us. It has resulted in us changing pricing for 7k season tickets for this coming year.

The market told us that for season tickets we need to price to the current actual pricing market in order to attract new season ticket customers and to maximize our season ticket renewals. We paid attention . We did it only for season tickets because those are the tickets we have to price in anticipation of the next season. Our hope is that for single game tickets the game experience, our team performance and big games will push our prices even higher and make our season tickets and even more attractive value .

4. Fans buy tickets where they like to buy them

The Mavs have found that some of our customers prefer to buy from a given secondary provider than from our site. They have a credit card set up there. They buy not just Mavs, but other Dallas teams, concerts and other events from a single source. That convenience, from their perspective make it a better choice. Yes, we try to offer better service, premium value, etc. But just like I buy from Amazon just because that is where I buy most of my stuff from, some fans have a preferred source of tickets. You have to be there and make it easy for them to buy.

5. Selling is the most important job at a team

Everyone majors in sports marketing. There is no more worthless major. Every school seems to have a major in sports management . Why do the schools and kids think that across the tens of thousands of graduates from these programs there is going to be a job than even comes close to paying off their student loans. Do the math.

Lets say there are 120 top pro teams. This article says there are about 12k sports marketing grads each year. The competition for jobs at pro teams is so brutal that we don’t have to pay much. Yet schools keep signing up kids. If schools want to have any value to sports teams they should offer degrees in Sales. Not sports sales. Just sales. Teach kids to sell and they can get jobs anywhere anytime. Teach kids sports management and you improve their chances of getting a job at Fridays.

At the Mavs we value customer satisfaction and sales. We want you to have an amazing time at a game. We want our advertiser/sponsors to get amazing value from their Mavs partnerships. We want to have enough great salespeople to reach out and communicate all of the above. Every team can not have enough great salespeople.

6. Spend money on fun.

No team is going to go undefeated every year. You have to make sure that even during games that don’t go the way of the home team that your fans feel like you are doing all you can to entertain them. At the Mavs we spend a small fortune on entertaining videos and in game entertainment. From the Mavs Maniaacs to special half time shows, to Seats for Soldiers, we want our Mavs games to be special occasions. We NEVER cut corners on in game entertainment. In fact we probably spend more on in game video and entertainment than the rest of the NBA combined.

If you have a limited budget and the choice is between fun or anything else, choose fun every time.
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby LA_Mustang » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:59 pm

I remember reading this when Cuban first put it out there in 2014. It made me very proud. I REALLY thought we had figured it out. Hard to believe in under five years we have basically lost everything that was great about that time.
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby redpony » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:19 pm

I've always been a Cuban fan. He just gets it. It is a shame that what we had has been lost due to an admin that felt noisy rowdy students had no place at athletic events and an AD that doesn't get it and who decided that loyal long-time customers are not important.
He sure could have learned a great deal from Cuban- especially when come to re-seating.
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Postby Arkpony » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:26 pm

Breaks the heart of all loyal SMU fans.
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby PonyLaw90 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:46 pm

Cuban is a smart mo-fo. On point.
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby geno » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:51 pm

And I appreciate the fact that Mark Cuban shares generously of his billions of dollars with SMU football and basketball programs. That kind of money really....what? You say he doesn't give any substantial support to our programs? Oh, didn't know that.
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby No Quarter » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:05 pm


Mr. Cuban was very much on point. SMU hoops these last several years has been a retelling of Aesop's Fable 87 - the one about the Goose that Laid a Golden Egg.
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby ALEX LIFESON » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:15 pm

If it aint broke, SMU and little Ricky Hart, will fix it until it is.
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby Pony ^ » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:45 pm

Cuban gets it.

SMU does not.

Fire Hart.
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby ponydawg » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:46 pm

Does Rick usually respond to tweets? It was just tweeted to him.
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby JasonB » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:49 pm

I amend my previous post... every year at the beginning of the year, and before a big game, we should post this along with the link to that Louisville game introduction. Just as a reminder.. Maybe we can all pitch in and put this in a frame so it can be hung in Hart's office?
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby DanFreibergerForHeisman » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:23 pm

ponydawg wrote:Does Rick usually respond to tweets? It was just tweeted to him.

I wonder if his burner account will stand up for him.
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby PonySnob » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:17 pm

DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:
ponydawg wrote:Does Rick usually respond to tweets? It was just tweeted to him.

I wonder if his burner account will stand up for him.


Which one is his burner account? The FakeBobSharp Twitter account seems to be having issues.
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby smupony94 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:47 pm

DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:
ponydawg wrote:Does Rick usually respond to tweets? It was just tweeted to him.

I wonder if his burner account will stand up for him.


Ask Ryan Hampton
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Re: Mark Cuban on SMU Basketball - Read it Rick

Postby 78pony » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:24 am

Not a Cuban can at all, but credit where it is due. Very thoughtful and insightful post. I suspect 99.5% of those reading this agree. Question is, do our people know this is out there for the world to see? Do they understand it? Do they Care enough...
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