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Re: Remember the good times

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:21 pm
by 78pony
Charleston Pony wrote:
mustangxc wrote:If we get guys like Semi Okeleye, Nic Moore, Jimmy Whitt, Isaiah Mike, Jamal McMurray I have no problems with building our core with transfers.


Don't forget Gu who gave us 3 pretty good years


He gave us 3 years. One was good for sure.

Re: Remember the good times

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:47 pm
by SoCal_Pony
LA_Mustang wrote:
JasonB wrote:The road to success is to recruit high end 3 stars with some 4 stars mixed in, and then land some really talented transfers. GT normally isn't the right way to go for that... usually more of a stop-gap. Every recruiting class should include a high level transfer. That is the direction we have gone - Moore, Gu, Semi, Whitt, Mike... last year we couldn't do it because of the need to get kids that could play immediately, but one of this year's class needs to be a transfer.

This ^

The goal every year should be a top 100 HS guy, 1 or 2 top 100-200 HS guys and a transfer. If we have another to give take a chance on a 250+ guy with a high upside, or a grad transfer. The issue lately is our last four HS recruits have been rated 300+.


People seem to forget Tolbert, Yanick and Markus, all of whom played important roles.

LA, how many Top 100 guys have we signed during this past golden decade era of SMU BB? Keeeith and Shake...that's it.

Our issue is that Jank is giving us such crap recruiting. 4 HS recruits are all 350+ (you are too kind saying 300+) AND Curtis White who is not even ranked.

I liked the idea of Buzz Williams. An up-and-coming HC that Marquette thought there was no way we could lure away. That's the type of coach I want at SMU. Good recruiter, good coach, proven track record.

BTW, I don't know if the recent health issues are weighing on Bryce Cook's ranking, but he's now at #423.

Re: Remember the good times

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:44 pm
by LA_Mustang
SoCal_Pony wrote:
LA_Mustang wrote:
JasonB wrote:The road to success is to recruit high end 3 stars with some 4 stars mixed in, and then land some really talented transfers. GT normally isn't the right way to go for that... usually more of a stop-gap. Every recruiting class should include a high level transfer. That is the direction we have gone - Moore, Gu, Semi, Whitt, Mike... last year we couldn't do it because of the need to get kids that could play immediately, but one of this year's class needs to be a transfer.

This ^

The goal every year should be a top 100 HS guy, 1 or 2 top 100-200 HS guys and a transfer. If we have another to give take a chance on a 250+ guy with a high upside, or a grad transfer. The issue lately is our last four HS recruits have been rated 300+.


People seem to forget Tolbert, Yanick and Markus, all of whom played important roles.

LA, how many Top 100 guys have we signed during this past golden decade era of SMU BB? Keeeith and Shake...that's it.

Our issue is that Jank is giving us such crap recruiting. 4 HS recruits are all 350+ (you are too kind saying 300+) AND Curtis White who is not even ranked.

I liked the idea of Buzz Williams. An up-and-coming HC that Marquette thought there was no way we could lure away. That's the type of coach I want at SMU. Good recruiter, good coach, proven track record.

BTW, I don't know if the recent health issues are weighing on Bryce Cook's ranking, but he's now at #423.

2012 - LB
Crandall Head (transfer - Illinois) ranked #80 out of HS
Markus Kennedy (transfer - Villanova) ranked #107 out of HS
Nic Moore (transfer - Illinois St.) ranked #236 out of HS

2013 - LB
Keith Frazier #27 (4 star)
Sterling Brown #109 (4 star)
Ben Moore #252 (3 star)
Yanick Moreia #1 JUCO in the country (3 star)

2014 - LB
E Mudiay #2 (5 star)
Jordan Tolbert (transfer - TT) ranked #295 out of HS (3 star)
Ben Emelogu (transfer Virginia Tech) ranked #412 out of HS (2 star)

2015 - LB
Shake Milton #90 (4 star)
Sed Barefield #157 (3 star)
Jarrey Foster #221 (3 star)

2016 - LB
Semi Ojeleye (transfer - Duke) #26 out of HS (4 star)
Harry Froling #131 (3 star)
Tom Wilson #201 (3 star)
Deshawn McDowell #316 (3 star)

2017 - Jank
Will Douglas #167 (3 star)
Ethan Chargois #186 (3 star)
Elijah Landrum #232 (3 star)
Everett Ray #354 (3 star)
Jahmal McMurray (transfer - USF) #401 out of HS (3 star)
Ishiah Mike (transfer - Duquesne) unranked out of HS

2018 - Jank
Feron Hunt #192 (3 star)
Jahmar Young #367 (3 star)
CJ White unranked (no stars)

2019 - Jank
Darius McBride #356 (3 star)
Bryce Cook #423 (3 star)
Emmanuel Bandoumel #7 JUCO (3 star)

* all rankings are the 247 composite.

Re: Remember the good times

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:25 am
by SoCal_Pony
LA - edit

2015- Jordan Tolbert, transfer Texas Tech, 3-star, #285 Nationally ranked

Re: Remember the good times

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:30 am
by Rebel10
The rankings are definitely trending.

Re: Remember the good times

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:29 am
by LA_Mustang
SoCal_Pony wrote:LA - edit

2015- Jordan Tolbert, transfer Texas Tech, 3-star, #285 Nationally ranked

Sorry, i just added Tolbert. He was part of 2014 class as he left TT in March of 2014 and sat out the 14-15 season.

Re: Remember the good times

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:26 pm
by sadderbudweiser
Wasn’t Tolbert either hardship or grad transfer? I don’t remember him sitting out.

Whatever it was he was one of my favorites. I’d kill for a tough guy like him today.
Our guys were really tough. I don’t feel that way about most of the current crew.

Re: Remember the good times

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:49 pm
by lollaperuna
Those guys had toughness and a belief that they would win. With Larry on the bench the crowd also had the belief that they would win. I will never forget the Sunday afternoon comeback game against Cincinnati when the team huddled at halfcourt in the waning minutes then went on to win the game. It was electric.