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Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:04 am
by PonyTime
I recall a year where we won 23 games, including 4 top 25 wins and one win vs. #7 team in the country. The conference was much tougher with Louisville and UConn actually being good and our OOC schedule was far tougher (UVA, A&M, Ark, TCU, Wyoming, etc).

Result: NIT

Don't know how anyone can think that that this team, even if they win out in regular season, would make NCAA tourney.

Only chance is to win AAC tourney in Ft. Worth.

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:08 am
by tristatecoog
Lunardi had Cincy as a projected 11 seed before last night's game. However they lost at home to a middling UCF. Now they might be a first four out type team.

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:09 am
by DanFreibergerForHeisman
JasonB wrote:I'm beginning to think that unless Wichita goes on a run, the conference might end up only being a 1 bid league. Bad losses all the way around. Surely we get two invites, right?

It is getting harder and harder to believe The American is anything but a one-bid league barring a surprise tournament winner.

And what's really sad and troubling is facing the reality we are a very average team in a one-bid league.

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:55 am
by indianmustang
this year will be ok with NIT bid

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:51 pm
by skyscraper
indianmustang wrote:this year will be ok with NIT bid


That's a loser attitude.
There's chaos in the entire conference and we have repeatedly failed to capitalize.
Also, the continued losses will push more and more teams into the NIT. I can't see a scenario where there's 4 or 5 AAC teams in the NIT.

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:03 am
by JasonB
PonyTime wrote:I recall a year where we won 23 games, including 4 top 25 wins and one win vs. #7 team in the country. The conference was much tougher with Louisville and UConn actually being good and our OOC schedule was far tougher (UVA, A&M, Ark, TCU, Wyoming, etc).

Result: NIT

Don't know how anyone can think that that this team, even if they win out in regular season, would make NCAA tourney.

Only chance is to win AAC tourney in Ft. Worth.


Three factors that season:
1) The loss in the tourney to Houston was really, really bad.
2) Back then, last 10 record was a major consideration, and SMU was only 6-4 in the last 10.
3) They were going to limit the AAC to a certain number of teams, and UConn closed the season well and took our spot.

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:09 pm
by SMU Section F
JasonB wrote:1) The loss in the tourney to Houston was really, really bad.

If we have to boil it down to one reason, this was it. That game was astonishingly terrible... I still think we should have gotten in "at-large" over NC State based on overall resume, but that loss was just so bad.

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:15 pm
by DanFreibergerForHeisman
JasonB wrote:Three factors that season:
1) The loss in the tourney to Houston was really, really bad.
2) Back then, last 10 record was a major consideration, and SMU was only 6-4 in the last 10.
3) They were going to limit the AAC to a certain number of teams, and UConn closed the season well and took our spot.

I am still convinced the selection committee had no idea who was even in The American, or at least didn’t know what to do with it, considering they took the three at-large teams and had the audacity to put them all in the same region.

Throwing a tournament selection party at Moody certainly didn’t help matters.

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:16 am
by RunningStang
Look at it this way, if SMU wins out, we are national champs!

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:40 am
by Hop Sing
The American might not have a ranked team this week, which tells you about the strength of the conference this year. Jank has been the beneficiary of a weak schedule all around and still managed to get blown out 3 times. Unless this team makes it to the conference championship game there won’t be a post season.

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:48 am
by Dukie
DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:
JasonB wrote:Three factors that season:
1) The loss in the tourney to Houston was really, really bad.
2) Back then, last 10 record was a major consideration, and SMU was only 6-4 in the last 10.
3) They were going to limit the AAC to a certain number of teams, and UConn closed the season well and took our spot.

I am still convinced the selection committee had no idea who was even in The American, or at least didn’t know what to do with it, considering they took the three at-large teams and had the audacity to put them all in the same region.

Throwing a tournament selection party at Moody certainly didn’t help matters.

They definitely didn’t know anything. But y’all are still not focused on the right thing, which is the panel of beauty-contestant judges. Wake Forest was chairing the committee that year. The AAC was not represented. The AAC *still* has not been represented on the committed in the conference’s entire existence.

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:34 am
by indianmustang
we are out of NIT bracket also,maybe CBI

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:06 am
by JasonB
Wichita, Tulsa, and Memphis will go 2-2 with their remaining games.

Cincy joins Houston in the NCAA if they go 2-1 and don't lose to a bad team in the conference tourney.

If we sweep, we tie Tulsa for 3rd. 3-1 will be good enough for fourth.

We will need to advance further than Memphis and Wichita in the conference tourney, and finish ahead of them in the league, to be able to go to the NIT.

As pointed out above, 4th would meet expectations before the season started, But given the quality of the league this year (or lack thereof), it isn't a great finish. Just Meh. Missing out on the NIT would certainly qualify as a disappointment.

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:07 am
by DanFreibergerForHeisman
indianmustang wrote:we are out of NIT bracket also,maybe CBI

The CIT was really fun at the time, and it was a good way to celebrate some ascent in the program and to reward some seniors and get some younger players some additional experience.

I am not sure SMU as a program now would do CBI/CIT, but would it be a good idea to consider it as a way to acknowledge Jank's rebuild from the injuries and sanctions and to give these players some postseason experience in preparation for the NIT or maybe NCAA next season?

Re: Where we sit in terms of NET and the tourney

PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:31 am
by indianmustang