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East Coast Mustang wrote:

ponyboy wrote:What is certain is that we shouldn't lower ourselves to personal attacks -- attacks that include attempts at reading a man's mind as to his motivations. As far as I can see, Tim Jankovich is a good man and a coach who's doing everything in his power to help us win. Not a popular take in this cancel culture, but there it is.

If you hired someone and paid them handsomely to do a job, and they rewarded you by putting in practically zero effort and constantly making excuses, what would you think of that person?

smitty329 wrote:

East Coast Mustang wrote:

ponyboy wrote:What is certain is that we shouldn't lower ourselves to personal attacks -- attacks that include attempts at reading a man's mind as to his motivations. As far as I can see, Tim Jankovich is a good man and a coach who's doing everything in his power to help us win. Not a popular take in this cancel culture, but there it is.

If you hired someone and paid them handsomely to do a job, and they rewarded you by putting in practically zero effort and constantly making excuses, what would you think of that person?

If you hired someone that had no authority but constantly criticized the leadership, shouted negative opinions, and alienated coworkers that were passionate about the business, cause, and fellow humans, what would you think of that person?

ponyboy wrote:Depends on who "we" is. If "we" means us fans then I'm going with jtstang's philosophy that we should have moderate expectations. If "we" means the people who actually have the power to do what it takes to get us to perennial Top 25 status, then I agree. That should be the goal.

I have a big question about whether beating a drum constantly to run a guy off really helps in the end. I really don't know. What is certain is that we shouldn't lower ourselves to personal attacks -- attacks that include attempts at reading a man's mind as to his motivations. As far as I can see, Tim Jankovich is a good man and a coach who's doing everything in his power to help us win. Not a popular take in this cancel culture, but there it is.

Go Mustangs

mustangxc wrote:I'd probably fire both.

LA_Mustang wrote:

ponyboy wrote:Depends on who "we" is. If "we" means us fans then I'm going with jtstang's philosophy that we should have moderate expectations. If "we" means the people who actually have the power to do what it takes to get us to perennial Top 25 status, then I agree. That should be the goal.

I have a big question about whether beating a drum constantly to run a guy off really helps in the end. I really don't know. What is certain is that we shouldn't lower ourselves to personal attacks -- attacks that include attempts at reading a man's mind as to his motivations. As far as I can see, Tim Jankovich is a good man and a coach who's doing everything in his power to help us win. Not a popular take in this cancel culture, but there it is.

Go Mustangs

I would love for you to specifically detail how Jank is doing everything in his power to help us win, but I expect the same response I got mustangabu.

BTW, being a good man or woman doesn’t mean you’re going to be good at doing a job.

Hal wrote:And he has as many NCAA wins as LB had. Yes, they should have wins over UCLA and USC ... but don't.

He's no John Wooden, but it's not he's Shumate or Doherty, either.

Stallion wrote:In fact, SMU's football program in the mid-1980s under Bobby Collins was going to be mediocre even if they hadn't gotten the last Death Penalty program because SMU recruiting was drastically heading south because of the multiple, prior probations.

Larry Brown owns that probation which makes an analysis of Jank's tenure a little more complicated.

SoCal_Pony wrote:SMU, the school that hemorrhages cash for 30 years with it Athletics, with some uncertainty and risk, hit the Lotto with Larry Brown.

But given his past, they undoubtedly know the baggage that comes with him.

Then don’t protect him when a minor infraction occurs, which ultimately gets blown out of proportion by our own ineptitude.

UNC commits academic fraud for nearly 20 years, then fights the NCAA for over 5 years and gets off with a hand slap.

That ain’t on Larry Brown. Shame on anyone who thinks so.

One Trick Pony wrote:What a [deleted] beatdown.

East Coast Mustang wrote:

One Trick Pony wrote:What a [deleted] beatdown.

Yes, watching Tim Jankovich systematically dismantle our basketball program with his laziness and incompetence is a [deleted] beatdown. Unfortunately we’re probably stuck with this complete joker for another season.