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We're # 131...well ahead of # 153 Oregon, # 228 LMU and # 278 Missouri in these wacky rankings that have Wagner College at # 23

Fortunately there is a lot of basketball still to be played

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketbal ... t-rankings

Note Dayton at # 95 is 2-0 vs Quad I opponents

Not a good starting spot! Need to win win win!

Charleston Pony wrote:Note Dayton at # 95 is 2-0 vs Quad I opponents

Balance that with the fact that their losses were atrocious.

ponyboy wrote:

Charleston Pony wrote:Note Dayton at # 95 is 2-0 vs Quad I opponents

Balance that with the fact that their losses were atrocious.

They have 2 quad 3 losses and 1 quad 4

SMU has 1 quad 3 loss and 2 quad 4 losses

Yes; our guys really need to win this game

Wow, really? I guess I underestimated Belmont and Austin Peay.

FWIW, Kenpom has SMU at 78 and Dayton at 94. And Belmont at 58 and Austin Peay at 252.

https://kenpom.com/

ponyboy wrote:FWIW, Kenpom has SMU at 78 and Dayton at 94. And Belmont at 58 and Austin Peay at 252.

https://kenpom.com/

Belmont has been solid for years now

Charleston Pony wrote:SMU has 1 quad 3 loss and 2 quad 4 losses

Yeah - which in all honesty probably already eliminates us no matter what we do the rest of the way.

DanFreibergerForHeisman wrote:

Charleston Pony wrote:SMU has 1 quad 3 loss and 2 quad 4 losses

Yeah - which in all honesty probably already eliminates us no matter what we do the rest of the way.

Probably have to finish in top 4 of the AAC, beat either Houston or Memphis or both at least once and finish no worse than runner up in AAC Tourney to have any hope. Winning the rest of our non-conference games would be a good place to start. Dayton might be tough and New Mexico's snake pit is always a tough place to win

Right. I think we should keep in mind as well that there’s a lot of up and down movement in the NET rankings as the season plays out. The NCAA says in their explanation of how they work that you really shouldn’t start to pay much attention to them until January. (And even in March, they are not dispositive, but an input to the committee’s decision about who’s in).

In other words, “quality wins” are retrospective. It may turn out that beating Vandy is huge. We don’t know right now. Maybe losing to Oregon will be huge. The solution is of course to beat everyone you should, win a few that could have gone either way, and win a couple you shouldn’t have.

What do y’all think? Do we look like a Tourney team?

I think Vandy will show at teh end of the year as a good team. I was happy with the way SMU looked against them. It looks like we are getting better as we go forward.

Of the twelve SWAC schools, they are just 2-1 at home so far. Congrats to TSU for their win over previously top 25 Florida.

Just for some perspective, after losing our 6 games last season, the women are 4-5 with a 117 NET ranking. The men are 8-3 with a 120 NET ranking. It doesn't take forever to start competing. We have a gem in Toyelle Wilson!

We can only hope the NET rankings undergo significant positive change (in terms of our opponents). As of today, SMU sits at # 117 and has wins against # 100 (Dayton), 118 (Vandy), 195, 261, 285, 293, 297 & 347 (Northwestern State) and losses vs # 125 (Oregon), 218 & 270 (Missouri). Have to believe Dayton, Vandy, Missou, Oregon and maybe UNLV will benefit from conference play once it gets underway