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Postby PonyPride » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:04 pm

... has fired head coach Isaac Brown, per The Athletic
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Re: Wichita State

Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:40 pm

Only 3 years in to a 5 year deal so he should get a nice severance check. WSU not satisfied playing close to .500 ball given their history of success under Greg Marshall
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Re: Wichita State

Postby Pony4Life » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:58 pm

Lanier's seat should be getting warm if we don't improve a lot next year
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Postby East Coast Mustang » Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:18 pm

Pony4Life wrote:Lanier's seat should be getting warm if we don't improve a lot next year

If we do not at least make the NIT next year, Lanier should be fired. Period.
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Re: Wichita State

Postby ponyboy » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:55 pm

You give any new coach three years to right the ship.
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Postby used to be 2 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:00 pm

Don't you thing the transfer portal changes the 3 year to right the ship?
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Re: Wichita State

Postby Charleston Pony » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:17 pm

used to be 2 wrote:Don't you thing the transfer portal changes the 3 year to right the ship?


I'd say 3 years is a fair barometer. Lanier had to scramble to backfill a roster after Jank "retired" and K.D. and Bandoumel moved on, so this next season he has to put a much more competitive team on the floor and have a winning season that might help attract true impact guys by his 3rd season. Pretty tall order to improve on Jank's 24-9 NIT team in what was probably the best team that he recruited during his time at the helm. Lanier only gets one more year out of Williamson who is arguably the most talented guy he has, so his seat will undoubtedly be getting really warm next year if he can't significantly improve on this season's results.
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Re: Wichita State

Postby redpony » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:24 pm

with the transfer portal and NIL there is no excuse why a coach should not have a top level winning team in his second year. There are more than a couple who just built winning teams their first year. No excuses- just results.
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Re: Wichita State

Postby East Coast Mustang » Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:27 pm

ponyboy wrote:You give any new coach three years to right the ship.

No. That's 2013 thinking. We have the transfer portal and we have NIL.

Lanier has done NOTHING since stepping on campus to suggest he was the right hire. The team this year was abysmal and he's signed a grand total of ZERO recruits out of high school since being here almost a year.

Right now it appears that, like Jank, he's using us to pad his retirement account. At least Jank could stumble into an NIT appearance every once in awhile.
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Re: Wichita State

Postby EastStang » Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:41 am

We lost 9 games in the last three minutes. Had we won those we would have been 19-13 and been in the NIT. Most of those losses stemmed from poor free throw shooting down the stretch and bad shot selection by the players. So, it wasn't the talent, it was the execution at the end of the game. The question is who we get next year. Will Lanier recruit decent talent or not. Clearly, we need a couple of great free throw shooters and ball handlers for the end of the game.
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Re: Wichita State

Postby Charleston Pony » Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:28 am

EastStang wrote:We lost 9 games in the last three minutes. Had we won those we would have been 19-13 and been in the NIT. Most of those losses stemmed from poor free throw shooting down the stretch and bad shot selection by the players. So, it wasn't the talent, it was the execution at the end of the game. The question is who we get next year. Will Lanier recruit decent talent or not. Clearly, we need a couple of great free throw shooters and ball handlers for the end of the game.


Losing KD hurt us this year and just look at what he's done for Memphis. It starts with a quality PG and we didn't have one. That's Lanier's 1st priority as far as I am concerned but we need a top notch 2 guard as we did not have any reliable perimeter shooters, either. We also have to replace Odigie and find a low post threat. Lots to do to make this team significantly better next year
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Re: Wichita State

Postby Bergermeister » Fri Mar 17, 2023 1:01 pm

Charleston Pony wrote: Lots to do to make this team significantly better next year

Program needs to work its way back up to "mediocre". There's a ways to go.
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Re: Wichita State

Postby Charleston Pony » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:58 pm

CA Mustang wrote:WSU hired ORU's coach: https://thesunflower.com/69927/sports/p ... all-coach/


Time will tell but this looks like a good hire. He's shown he can build a winning program
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Re: Wichita State

Postby mustangxc » Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:23 pm

ponyboy wrote:You give any new coach three years to right the ship.

Right the ship? We made it to back to back NITs and it would have been 3 straight NITs if not for COVID-19. What ship is he righting? He was supposed to improve on what Jankovich did. I can understand arguing for giving him 5 years to make the NCAA tournament, but we should have been an NIT team this season. Next season the minimum expectation should be 20 wins and an NIT appearance. If not we are not serious about competing and might as well save our money and grab a $200,000/year coach and move down to a more regional conference to save on travel expenses.
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