Kirk Snyder

[GoRedGoBlue]

The POINT is that 98% of the posters on this board including YOU are completely ignorant about the talent signed by other WAC and competitor schools including non-qualifiers, partial qualifiers, minimum qualifiers and JUCOs in both FB and BB. When you suggest getting a guy like Snyder single-handedly turned around the program you are ignorant of the facts. Its part of the BIG LIE that's been going on around here for 15 years when former AD Doug Single first openly suggested that SMU didn't have to compete with the big boys in recruiting but could simply succeed by finding a few gems every year and sprinkle in a few complementary players to suceed every once in a while. It is BIG LIE told over and over on this board by Cheerleaders who don't have a clue about the facts.

Doug Single has been out for quite some time now.

As many of us cheerleaders have pointed out to you, the administrative handicaps from 1989 - 2001 were the main reason we were not able to recruit with the big boys. I have to assume that the Single's of the world put their best story forward, which is what you call a lie.

However, in 2001 things were changed. And these changes started in motion PRIOR to 2001. Changes take time in academia, like government projects.

Unfortunately for all of us cheerleaders, it takes even more time for any benefits associated with the changes to bear fruit.

In the meantime, you keep saying that everyone is lieing to you.

[EastStang]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we beat Nevada one out of the two times that we played them. With the team we have right now we can run with the good teams, when we want to run with the good teams. But we can also stink up the gym as we also demonstrated. We do lack size, there is no question about that and that showed clearly against OSU. But we can be a solid WAC team if we continue to grab one pale blue chip every 2 years or so. There is one other thing that I noticed. With the NBA now making noises about starting a minor league, a number of your academically challenged basketball players may opt for the NBA, Jr. league. This means that these guys can earn a paycheck for playing basketball right out of high school. That would turn college basketball into something more akin to college baseball. Kids who play college baseball actually want to go to college, or are not quite pro material.

[silverpack]

SMU beat Nevada one out of the 3 times you played them. You probably forgot about Nevada knocking SMU out of the WAC tourney for the 3rd consecutive year.

Good luck to the Mustangs next year. Hopkins, Milsap, and Harris have to be the early leaders for Pre-Season WAC player of the year.

[PonyTales]

The POINT is that 98% of the posters on this board including YOU are completely ignorant about the talent signed by other WAC and competitor schools including non-qualifiers, partial qualifiers, minimum qualifiers and JUCOs in both FB and BB. When you suggest getting a guy like Snyder single-handedly turned around the program you are ignorant of the facts. Its part of the BIG LIE that's been going on around here for 15 years when former AD Doug Single first openly suggested that SMU didn't have to compete with the big boys in recruiting but could simply succeed by finding a few gems every year and sprinkle in a few complementary players to suceed every once in a while. It is BIG LIE told over and over on this board by Cheerleaders who don't have a clue about the facts.

Doug Single has been out for quite some time now.

As many of us cheerleaders have pointed out to you, the administrative handicaps from 1989 - 2001 were the main reason we were not able to recruit with the big boys. I have to assume that the Single's of the world put their best story forward, which is what you call a lie.

However, in 2001 things were changed. And these changes started in motion PRIOR to 2001. Changes take time in academia, like government projects.

Unfortunately for all of us cheerleaders, it takes even more time for any benefits associated with the changes to bear fruit.

In the meantime, you keep saying that everyone is lieing to you.

Of course he knows what's really going on, because he works for the athletic department.
Wait, no he doesn't.

Well, at least he works for the university.
Wait - no he doesn't.

Maybe it's because he's a coach who scouts and/or recruits for a living.
No, that's not it, either.

Or maybe he's like the rest of us and has an opinion based on hearsay, gossip and rumor. Rock-solid.

[GoRedGoBlue]

Exactly

[jc500]

.....the TRUTH.

Stallion's got this one right boyz.

SMU places itself at a competitive disadvantage by not giving the program a method by which to lure the real talent. Sure, every once in a while a Sasser comes along (let's hope through the machinations of the newly re-acquired Coach Tubbs), but look at what that lone NBA talent produced - a slightly more exciting version of mediocrity. And you can't tell me he wasn't surrounded by good role players. Willie Davis, Bobby Dimson, Quentin Ross, Jay Poerner, Steven Woods, etc. All those guys, at one time or another, took the floor with J. Sass. Nothing came of it.

One way to correct this problem is, like the Stallion suggests, to find a way to take in the partial/non-qualifiers and build a legion of talent. While this University was arguably tainted by the payment scandals of the '80s, it's time to take a hard look at the competitive landscape and make the appropriate changes. Let's not cheat again, but let's definitely test the boundaries of the rules in order to become competitive again.

Additionally, SMU needs to adjust the way it markets itself to the better athletes. This has less to do with one-on-one discussions with a recruit, and more to do with increasing the value of the SMU-collegiate athletics experience. JC500 has maintained for years that television coverage is key to luring local Dallas talent. While getting ESPN to cover games is not a realistic goal, local television coverage can easily be aquired - EVEN IF IT REQUIRES THE UNIVERSITY SUBSIDIZING THE COVERAGE!

Think about it; if you have every home game covered on a local station in the DFW area (someone will do it for the right price), you plant the seed in a recruit's mind that all local games will be seen by his friends and family. And if the University is running the coverage, glamorous/overly-friendly/excessively praising coverage of the INDIVIDUAL athletes will work wonders over the span of 2-3 years. If you're a "pale blue chipper" or even a blue chipper, and you have the choice of attending either of several mid-range programs, you'll probably choose the one that will give you the best chance of winning and the MOST EXPOSURE. And the game exposure would also increase the player's on-campus credibility as well.

I haven't been back to the Hilltop in several years (save a brief trip in 2003 - known as "JC's ressurection tour."), but I imagine the campus profile of SMU's ballers is as luke warm as it ever was. The fact is, a frat dominated school is not going to give a [deleted] about its mediocre athletic programs. You have to make them care by either winning, or shifting the social standing. Excessive television coverage is one way to tilt the social balance, which should ultimately (for many other reasons) lead to winning.

Praise to the Stallion for shedding real light on the conditions that plague the Pony Hoops program. Shame to all you ne'er do wells and your masturbatory optimism.

Changes are required. Vision is required. JC500 is seeing 20/20 on this one.

Enjoy the day of my ressurection that we may all share in Pony Hoops glory,
JC 500.

[jtstang]

.....the TRUTH.

One way to correct this problem is, like the Stallion suggests, to find a way to take in the partial/non-qualifiers and build a legion of talent. While this University was arguably tainted by the payment scandals of the '80s, it's time to take a hard look at the competitive landscape and make the appropriate changes. Let's not cheat again, but let's definitely test the boundaries of the rules in order to become competitive again.

JC 500.

You're at least partially wrong. Stallion does not advocate the acceptance of non-qualifiers at SMU. I don't think he is a proponent of partials, either, but not sure on that one--maybe he can clarify.

[EastStang]

I'd favor televising away games, not home games, we have enough trouble drawing fans as it is. With Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, UH and Rice all being in CUSA, it might be time to think about having some sort of CUSA game of the week televised in Dallas, Houston, N.O., Tulsa. Would work for football and basketball. Jefferson Pilot started a small network for showing ACC games in basketball and they built a network.