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SoCal_Pony wrote:

PoconoPony wrote:I think there are real issues with the Rams returning to LA. I was assigned to LA for several years in the early 1970s and attended a number of Ram games in the Coliseum. At that time, the attendance was nothing special. Maybe 45 -50 thousand in a stadium that held nearly 100,000. Tickets were easy to get and many locals enjoyed UCLA and USC football much more for a variety of reasons. Laker and King tickets were very tough gets and the Dodgers played so many week night games that their tickets were no problem. The LA area has a variety of more things vying for the entertainment dollar that any place I can think. Californians would just as soon be on the beach as spending a Sunday afternoon stuck in a massive traffic jam just to see a game. Yes, the road systems where the new stadium will be located are nightmares commensurate with all LA standards. Not sure any rapid transit will service this location. Bottom line, the Rams have had only had 4 winning seasons in the last 21 seasons in St. Louis. If the Rams do not have a winner after the first 2 year honeymoon, the franchise will not be supported and the whole thing will be a loser. There was a reason the franchise left LA for St. Louis and those same reasons have not changed. I would not want to imagine what traffic would be like if San Diego made the decision to join the Rams in LA with their fan base initially seeking to drive to LA.

At some point teams like the Chargers and Raiders must come to grips with the idea that they have great fan bases and should curb their greed and stay where they are appreciated and thrive. Green Bay proves this point in every aspect every year.

I would add that LA is 50% Hispanic & 10% Asian, not the most ardent NFL fans.

Between drive time and the game, a fan from Orange County would devote 7 to 8 hours on game day, a fan from SD, over 10 hours. Not worth it except for the truly die-hards.

Digetydog wrote:

SoCal_Pony wrote:

PoconoPony wrote:I think there are real issues with the Rams returning to LA. I was assigned to LA for several years in the early 1970s and attended a number of Ram games in the Coliseum. At that time, the attendance was nothing special. Maybe 45 -50 thousand in a stadium that held nearly 100,000. Tickets were easy to get and many locals enjoyed UCLA and USC football much more for a variety of reasons. Laker and King tickets were very tough gets and the Dodgers played so many week night games that their tickets were no problem. The LA area has a variety of more things vying for the entertainment dollar that any place I can think. Californians would just as soon be on the beach as spending a Sunday afternoon stuck in a massive traffic jam just to see a game. Yes, the road systems where the new stadium will be located are nightmares commensurate with all LA standards. Not sure any rapid transit will service this location. Bottom line, the Rams have had only had 4 winning seasons in the last 21 seasons in St. Louis. If the Rams do not have a winner after the first 2 year honeymoon, the franchise will not be supported and the whole thing will be a loser. There was a reason the franchise left LA for St. Louis and those same reasons have not changed. I would not want to imagine what traffic would be like if San Diego made the decision to join the Rams in LA with their fan base initially seeking to drive to LA.

At some point teams like the Chargers and Raiders must come to grips with the idea that they have great fan bases and should curb their greed and stay where they are appreciated and thrive. Green Bay proves this point in every aspect every year.

I would add that LA is 50% Hispanic & 10% Asian, not the most ardent NFL fans.

Between drive time and the game, a fan from Orange County would devote 7 to 8 hours on game day, a fan from SD, over 10 hours. Not worth it except for the truly die-hards.

There are a [deleted] of Mexican-American fans of the Cowboys and the Radiers. IMHO - it is one of the reasons why Jerry didn't want the Raiders in LA.

SoCal_Pony wrote:

Digetydog wrote:

SoCal_Pony wrote:
There are a [deleted] of Mexican-American fans of the Cowboys and the Radiers. IMHO - it is one of the reasons why Jerry didn't want the Raiders in LA.

There are 2 million Hispanics in LA, of course 'there are a [deleted] of Mexican-American fans, but the fact remains Futbol is still the favorite sport. I do believe NFL football is growing in popularity.

soccermom wrote:We were talking about this last night during the game and commented how phoenix plays games in a college stadium and, as far as we know, they don't complain about it and want a gazillion dollar stadium.

soccermom wrote:We were talking about this last night during the game and commented how phoenix plays games in a college stadium and, as far as we know, they don't complain about it and want a gazillion dollar stadium.

soccermom wrote:We were talking about this last night during the game and commented how phoenix plays games in a college stadium and, as far as we know, they don't complain about it and want a gazillion dollar stadium.