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TCU #1 Business School in Texas (WSJ)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:30 am
by FroggieFever
From Killer Frogs...

Just saw the 2005 rankings by Wall Street Journal and TCU is #1 in Texas. Most of us probably already know TCU is #1 academics in Texas but thought I would post WSJ article.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/ ... eboard.pdf


1 1 Purdue University (Krannert)
2 8 Michigan State University (Broad)
3 3 Ohio State University (Fisher)
4 10 Thunderbird (Garvin)
5 11 IPADE
6 5 Brigham Young University (Marriott)
7 17 Wake Forest University (Babcock)
8 9 University of Denver (Daniels)
9 7 Tecnologico de Monterrey
10 16 University of Miami
11 13 Indiana University (Kelley)
12 19 Emory University (Goizueta)
13 15 University at Buffalo/SUNY
14 -- Fordham University
15 4 University of Maryland (Smith)
16 -- University of Iowa (Tippie)
17 20 University of Rochester (Simon)
18 6 Texas Christian University (Neeley)
19 25 College of William and Mary
20 14 Southern Methodist University (Cox)
21 2 Vanderbilt University (Owen)
22 24 Rice University (Jones)
23 12 University of Tennessee, Knoxville
24 -- University of Arizona (Eller)
25 18 Washington University (Olin)
26 30 University of Utah (Eccles)
27 21 University of Florida (Warrington)
28 31 Texas A&M University (Mays)
29 27 University of Notre Dame (Mendoza)
30 38 University of Georgia (Terry)
31 37 George Washington University
32 32 University of Minnesota (Carlson)
33 26 Pennsylvania State University (Smeal)
34 33 University of Wisconsin, Madison
35 -- University of Texas, Austin (McCombs)
36 29 University of Washington
37 22 University of Pittsburgh (Katz)
38 36 Georgetown University (McDonough)

Re: TCU #1 Business School in Texas (WSJ)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:46 am
by Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex
FrogieFever wrote:From Killer Frogs...
Most of us probably already know TCU is #1 academics in Texas but thought I would post WSJ article.


Whatever helps you sleep at night.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:33 am
by 2112
That's great! but we all know most of your football players major in eligibility, or paper clip folding! :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:03 am
by LakeHighlandsPony
UT is 35th? I don't think so.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:09 am
by friarwolf
As much as I love SMU, any ranking that puts McCombs 35th on the list is suspect IMO.............Not to mention ranking TCU first above us, ut, rice.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:45 am
by huntnfish
Froggie Fever,

To bad that BCS thing is not going to work out for you guys.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:04 am
by LakeHighlandsPony
Patterson is already ordering his 3X K-State gear....

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:14 am
by SoCal_Pony
It actually brings up an interesting point. I’ve noticed over the past year that in these rankings (Princeton Review also comes to mind) that UT has dropped considerably…anyone know why…is it part of their new admissions policy mandated by the state???

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:39 pm
by gostangs
Had Mr. Froggie dude been an SMU graduate he would have been able to discern that this is a ranking of college RECRUITERS favorite schools - not a ranking of quality. Big Difference.

No third party source would rank their pathetic business school anywhere near the top of the state relative to quality.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:24 pm
by FroggieFever
gostangs... you are truly, truly, illiterate--I'm through with you. Actually, my friends, TCU football players are some of the most successful students on our campus!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:18 pm
by gostangs
I am sure they are - but then again, thats not a very high bar to jump over now is it?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:08 pm
by FroggieFever
Another interesting statistic: TCU student athletes rank higher in their classes, hold higher GPAs, and receive higher accumulative transcripts than the rest of the student body.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:46 am
by The Stampede
You do know that this ranking is by a panel of corporate recruiters right? It has nothing to do with academics, etc. What is the average starting salary for a TCU MBA? $63,000 (straight from their website, with 3-5 years of experience) and $85,000 if more than 5 years experience. The AVERAGE salary for a COX MBA is $78,000 with a $15,000 signing bonus. That's $93,000 right out of the gate. All data straight from the school's websites.

Look at the Cox School of Business PMBA and EMBA programs. PMBA is #10 by Forbes and #12 by USNews (this is the biggest program by far at SMU - approx. 600 students), EMBA is ranked #15 in the country by USNews.

Neeley is a fine school and TCU is definitely putting more emphasis on their business school and recruiting Professional MBA's (the cash cow of both schools). It's ludicrous to declare TCU as the top business school in the state on one skewed ranking.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:00 pm
by EastStang
If I'm a recruiter, I'm going to want the cheapest help I can find that I won't mind laying off in two years. So, I go dumpster diving. Just kidding. I'm glad to see that TCU is improving some.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:47 pm
by DiamondM75
FrogieFever wrote:Another interesting statistic: TCU student athletes rank higher in their classes, hold higher GPAs, and receive higher accumulative transcripts than the rest of the student body.


All this statements proves is that your student body is of lower academics that the big dumb jocks.