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Postby MrMustang1965 » Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:11 pm

jtstang wrote:
EastStang wrote: I'd agree to put a fire hydrant outside of the new building and put Vodicka's name on it. Gary Vodicka Fire Hydrant.

Shouldn't we have him whacked first and make it the Gary Vodicka Memorial Fire Hydrant?


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Postby EastStang » Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:19 pm

No, don't whack him, just put his name on the fire hydrant so every dog in town will give him some love.
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Postby Kappas Are Yummy » Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:29 pm

I think it's funny that a lot of posters believe recruits read this website and base their decisions on the stuff they read.

That makes it really funny to see some posters referring to whacking a guy and his "memorial." I mean, I know ya'll are joking, but Vodika is a lawyer and apparently pretty wiley or a jerk, depending upon your point of view.

I wonder if he reads this site and takes note of what he sees?

Like I said, I just think it's pretty humorous... :wink:
Just my two cents.
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Postby OC Mustang » Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:20 pm

PonyPride, this thread needs to be edited or taken down.
Kappas Are Yummy is making a salient point.
Fire Hydrants are one thing.
The Soprano treatment is different.
Vodicka is the 3rd thru 6th letter in his name, but IMHO the guys are swimming a little too far out from the buoys.
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Postby smupony94 » Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:38 pm

This will take care of it - Bush Library
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Postby Col. Nathan R. Jessep » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:53 pm

SMU Football Blog wrote:
Col. Nathan R. Jessep wrote:------------------------
Freakin overpaid


That isn't a nice thing to say about Mr. McElhaney. He is a Mustang Clubber and season ticket holder for FB and BB and has been all three for over 20 years.

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You may be right, BLOG.

My comment was that it should NOT take 3 attorneys = $1200/hr to get rid of the Vodicka lawsuit.

This is a ridiculous case that has virtually no merit & does not even deserve the effort we're making in hitting the keystrokes.

This is about Bush-- not frickin condos. A$$holes like Vodicka are a dime a dozen in the U.S.-- and come from both political parties.

Personally, I'd like to see "the likes of a "Pony Soprano" to persuade VoDICKa to go get a real job.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:52 am

For the record, I may have overestimated the hourly rate by a hundred dollars or so. Second, I am pretty sure the law firm gives SMU a discount because (a) the volume of work; and (b) SMU is a prestigious client. But there were two partners and an associate. It was argued by McElhaney, and the other two lawyers didn't do much per the record. One was SMU law grad Peter Franklin and his associate who was the Bankruptcy Judge's former law clerk. McElhaney, though very smart, is not a Bankruptcy lawyer, and it was question of bankruptcy law, so you needed one there, but McElhaney knows the case better than anybody, so he had to be there. The associate was there because she was the judge's clerk adn because she actually filed the brief.

Vodicka may be an a-hole and devoid of scruples, but we have not established he is a bad lawyer. And even if he is a bad lawyer, that doesn't mean it is easy to beat him. Sometimes you have to work twice as hard to beat a bad lawyer.
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Re: Hunt gave (SMU) $35 million for land purchase

Postby Ponymon » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:15 pm

Cheesesteak wrote:Hunt gave $35 million for land purchase

By Mark Norris, Managing Editor, mnorris@smu.edu
August 11, 2006 - SMU Daily Campus

Ray Hunt, a prominent Dallas businessman and member of the SMU Board of Trustees, gave the university $35 million in November 2005 to purchase Park Cities Plaza, the shopping center at Mockingbird Lane and Central Expressway adjacent to the campus.

According to depositions taken Aug. 3 and 7 from the previous owners of the shopping center, Hunt wired the money to a title company Nov. 15, closing the sale.

The depositions were shared with The Daily Campus by Gary Vodicka— who arranged for them as part of his legal battle with SMU over the University Gardens complex­—and was present when they were taken. The depositions also revealed that university officials indicated during depositions that the public policy center portion of the proposed Bush Presidential Library is designated for the shopping center site.

University President R. Gerald Turner confirmed Hunt’s role in the purchase.

“Ray Hunt made available the money to purchase the property. The center (now) is owned by the university’s Peruna Properties.”

Hunt was unavailable for comment, but the senior vice president for Hunt Consolidated and fellow Board of Trustees member, Jeanne Phillips, said she “couldn’t comment on any philanthropic donation and I can’t confirm nor deny if it was done.”

She said all SMU Board members have agreed not to comment on any matter relating to the library.

Turner said the shopping center was “one of the few pieces of property west of Central Expressway that we didn’t have.”

The two people deposed were Katherine Griffin and Paul Collins, who are siblings and beneficiaries of the Tobin trust, which previously owned the Park Cities Plaza. Their mother, Ann Collins, is the co-trustee on the trust that was left to her by her father, Donald Tobin, according to the deposition records.

According to Vodicka, Griffin said in her deposition that SMU pestered her mother and caused her family to spend nearly $500,000 in legal fees over a four-year period that began in August 2001 and ended with the sale of the property in November 2005.

SMU’s vice president of legal affairs, Leon Bennett, said he never directly met with the beneficiaries of the trust or the co-trustee. He said he dealt only with representatives of the family and didn’t see or hear anything that he viewed or interpreted as harassment.

Vodicka said, according to the depositions, SMU had offered to buy the property from the family for $16 million, but the family refused. A counteroffer of $29 million was refused by SMU.

At that point, according to Vodicka, the depositions indicate SMU threatened to sue the family, saying that their property was causing environmental contamination at the Mrs. Baird’s factory site across Mockingbird. The university notified officials at the Environmental Protection Agency, among others, and requested an investigation. Vodicka says he has the certified letters to the agencies as part of his filing brief.

The family drilled test wells on the shopping center site and it was later determined that they did not cause the environmental damage at the Mrs. Baird’s site, according to the depositions.

Vodicka said, in the deposition, Griffin said the legal battles were draining to her aging mother and they finally agreed to sell the property – believing that the site would be used for the George W. Bush Presidential Library.

Griffin said in her deposition, according to Vodicka, that Bennett told them and officials at Bank of America as early as December 2002 that SMU intended to use the site for the library and its public/foreign policy component. Bennett also told the trust members not to disclose the information and to keep it secret, according to Vodicka’s account of the deposition.

Bennett confirmed that he did have dealings with officials from Bank of America and representatives of the trust, but did not elaborate on any details of the conversations.


It looks like the land purchase was only a part of the use of proceeds for the gift. Go to:

http://www.smu.edu/newsinfo/stories/hun ... ug2006.asp
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Postby RGV Pony » Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:48 pm

SMU Football Blog wrote:For the record, I may have overestimated the hourly rate by a hundred dollars or so. Second, I am pretty sure the law firm gives SMU a discount because (a) the volume of work; and (b) SMU is a prestigious client. But there were two partners and an associate. It was argued by McElhaney, and the other two lawyers didn't do much per the record. One was SMU law grad Peter Franklin and his associate who was the Bankruptcy Judge's former law clerk. McElhaney, though very smart, is not a Bankruptcy lawyer, and it was question of bankruptcy law, so you needed one there, but McElhaney knows the case better than anybody, so he had to be there. The associate was there because she was the judge's clerk adn because she actually filed the brief.

Vodicka may be an a-hole and devoid of scruples, but we have not established he is a bad lawyer. And even if he is a bad lawyer, that doesn't mean it is easy to beat him. Sometimes you have to work twice as hard to beat a bad lawyer.


Maybe we don't know whether he's a bad attorney, but we do know that he rec'd a public reprimand in 2003 from the Texas Bar.
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Postby Stallion » Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:32 pm

to be accurate that was for not paying his Texas attorney tax on time.
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Postby RGV Pony » Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:07 pm

Stallion wrote:to be accurate that was for not paying his Texas attorney tax on time.


In that case, I'll just confirm that we don't know much about the guy. Except that which has already been discussed.
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Postby gostangs » Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:58 pm

I think being an a-hole does not make him a bad attorney, just an average attoney.
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