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UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting referee
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:23 pmby austinponie
A little off-topic, but here's the link to the video.
Obvious what their intentions were -2 Jay players were previously ejected on earlier play.
Interesting escalation...
http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/high_s ... 487775.php
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:59 pmby Arkpony
Has Baylor offered them?
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:08 pmby Digetydog
I am surprised that the police aren't involved yet.
If they were my players, they would be suspended until forever.
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:13 pmby skyscraper
The cops are involved now. Announced today they're investigating.
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:20 pmby vielsiehorsepower
Devils advocate, but maybe the ref had it coming in some ways? Not that the kids hitting him was a good response but perhaps he had made some entirely inappropriate comment or something and the kids were acting out? Just a thought, haven't read much more than the average sports fan
The only reason I mention that is because it would seem on the surface that a kid would have to be pushed over the edge to do that. I'm not an older guy, but I've never heard of this happening anywhere or during any era. Refs make bad and unfair calls on a weekly basis in every sport ..it would seem these would need to be more escalated circumstances to warrant an assault like that
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:49 pmby mrydel
I would like for those that keep saying maybe the ref had it coming would give me an example of anything he could have said or done to incite a coordinated "hit" such as that. One or 2 of the kids teammates had previously been ejected for some reason, I guess that could be a reason for blatant assault. (Sarcasm)
And before anyone says innocent until proven guilty, that is only in the courtroom. If it were not there would be no need for bail. These two should be arrested now.
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:59 pmby RGV Pony
mrydel wrote:I would like for those that keep saying maybe the ref had it coming would give me an example of anything he could have said or done to incite a coordinated "hit" such as that. One or 2 of the kids teammates had previously been ejected for some reason, I guess that could be a reason for blatant assault. (Sarcasm)
And before anyone says innocent until proven guilty, that is only in the courtroom. If it were not there would be no need for bail. These two should be arrested now.
Only thing I could come up with is if ref was their coach in peewee and molested them
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:01 pmby mrydel
I could excuse that but it would still be an act for which they should be arrested.
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:02 pmby Stallion
When I first saw it-I played it over 3 times to check to see if the first guy could have been keying on some development in the play and simply didn't see official was in his way and the second guy just reacted by hitting the same guy. But no-its impossible-there is no explanation or excuse. It was a premeditated assault
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:15 pmby Digetydog
There is nothing football related that could justify that kind of attack.
Of the top of my head: reasons
1) RGV's example, but why did they wait until so late in the game?
2) the ref was screaming racial slurs at them. Unlikely.
3) they are knuckleheads with anger issues and or impulse control. #wehaveawinner
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:23 pmby Rebel10
Digetydog wrote:
2) the ref was screaming racial slurs at them. Unlikely.
Agree, probably not especially when the player that hit him first was white and the ref was white.
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:29 pmby DanFreibergerForHeisman
Officials do need to be held accountable for their decisions, but this isn't the best way to go about it.
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:34 pmby ponyinNC
It's a damn game. Nothing excuses this behavior- not missed calls or something rude being said. These kids are going to jail.
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:58 pmby vielsiehorsepower
mrydel wrote:I would like for those that keep saying maybe the ref had it coming would give me an example of anything he could have said or done to incite a coordinated "hit" such as that. One or 2 of the kids teammates had previously been ejected for some reason, I guess that could be a reason for blatant assault. (Sarcasm)
And before anyone says innocent until proven guilty, that is only in the courtroom. If it were not there would be no need for bail. These two should be arrested now.
1.race
2.jokes about socioeconomic upbringing
3.made some unprofessional remark about the kids team losing
And I'm confused by your use of the sarcasm font (damn impersonal communication). Are you doubting the other players being ejected as a reason they attacked the ref or are you neglecting to consider it because it doesn't align with rational decision making? These are 16-18 year old kids we are talking about, after all. Maybe they felt that ejection was unfair and led to them losing? Pretty plausible to me.
By saying that he 'had it coming' the implication is not necessarily that he was at fault but that they didn't just sit back there and pull the idea out of their asses to blatantly assault a ref in a game.
Re: UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting refe
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Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:05 pmby blackoutpony
vielsiehorsepower wrote:mrydel wrote:I would like for those that keep saying maybe the ref had it coming would give me an example of anything he could have said or done to incite a coordinated "hit" such as that. One or 2 of the kids teammates had previously been ejected for some reason, I guess that could be a reason for blatant assault. (Sarcasm)
And before anyone says innocent until proven guilty, that is only in the courtroom. If it were not there would be no need for bail. These two should be arrested now.
1.race
2.jokes about socioeconomic upbringing
3.made some unprofessional remark about the kids team losing
And I'm confused by your use of the sarcasm font (damn impersonal communication). Are you doubting the other players being ejected as a reason they attacked the ref or are you neglecting to consider it because it doesn't align with rational decision making? These are 16-18 year old kids we are talking about, after all. Maybe they felt that ejection was unfair and led to them losing? Pretty plausible to me.
By saying that he 'had it coming' the implication is not necessarily that he was at fault but that they didn't just sit back there and pull the idea out of their asses to blatantly assault a ref in a game.
Do you support cop killers too?