UIL investigating SA John Jay players for targeting referee

[mrydel]

You justify some bad words being said (which of course is not anywhere suggested) as being a reason for assault on a defenseless individual in the back with what I would consider a form of weapon (helmet and pads). I hope I am never on the same earth as you.

[vielsiehorsepower]

Edited this post because going back over my previous posts I realized I did not provide as much clarity into my responses. Bop and mrydel since you can see the original text I typed I apologize for my tone.


No I am not trying to justify their actions, I'm trying to UNDERDTAND them. This inevitably leads me to consider the possibility that maybe the ref provoked the action in some way. That is not to say that even if he did that this assault was justified. However, this incident is so far out of left field that it would seem like there is more to the story than what's been released. It's also possible that they're just stupid kids. It happens.



I did begin my original post by claiming that I was indeed playing devils advocate

[mrydel]

Yeah I am just an idiot. My bad.

[vielsiehorsepower]

See above

[mrydel]

I understand you fully, but for the life of me I cannot come up with anything that could have provoked what to me is a totally premeditated attack. Had one person done some sort of retaliatory reactive action, perhaps there could be some inconceivable justification. But with two it becomes a conspiracy to do harm. And that to me is the issue at hand.

And I do know you were playing devils advocate but I just cannot wrap my brain around anything but thug retaliation for something.

[SMU Football Blog]

Kids should be kicked off the team. If coach told them to do it, coach should be fired.

[vielsiehorsepower]

I understand you fully, but for the life of me I cannot come up with anything that could have provoked what to me is a totally premeditated attack. Had one person done some sort of retaliatory reactive action, perhaps there could be some inconceivable justification. But with two it becomes a conspiracy to do harm. And that to me is the issue at hand.

And I do know you were playing devils advocate but I just cannot wrap my brain around anything but thug retaliation for something.

Well at any rate it is thug retaliation. I don't know what the races of the involved individuals were but even if he up and out said a racial slur to them their reaction is uncalled for. Totally unacceptable thing to do and they should be charged accordingly. I guess we will find out the players side of the story in good time so it will be interesting to see what their lawyers come up with!

[Rebel10]

It was because of a bad call late in the game that was at a critical point.

[Nedward]

Disgusting behavior and they both need jail time. You can't attack refs in a football game. Incredible the levity we allow kids these days. This isn't boys being boys...that's two jackaces planning their attack and doing it in public. There are consequences to your actions in this world.

[Digetydog]

I understand you fully, but for the life of me I cannot come up with anything that could have provoked what to me is a totally premeditated attack. Had one person done some sort of retaliatory reactive action, perhaps there could be some inconceivable justification. But with two it becomes a conspiracy to do harm. And that to me is the issue at hand.

And I do know you were playing devils advocate but I just cannot wrap my brain around anything but thug retaliation for something.

The only remotely justifiable attack on a referee: http://onlineathens.com/stories/122199/ ... e4KDMT3aK0
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando ... n_football)#Out_of_football.2C_injuries.2C_and_lawsuits

[Arkpony]

Edited this post because going back over my previous posts I realized I did not provide as much clarity into my responses. Bop and mrydel since you can see the original text I typed I apologize for my tone.


No I am not trying to justify their actions, I'm trying to UNDERDTAND them. This inevitably leads me to consider the possibility that maybe the ref provoked the action in some way. That is not to say that even if he did that this assault was justified. However, this incident is so far out of left field that it would seem like there is more to the story than what's been released. It's also possible that they're just stupid kids. It happens.

I have tried many many criminals in my term as a circuit judge. You have to come to grips with the fact that some people just do evil things. You cannot "understand" evil actions: a man shoots a clerk because she won't give him a free burger; A guy stabs another guy because he "looked at me the wrong way"; a man shoots another man at a night laundry just because he is there. Don't try to "understand".



I did begin my original post by claiming that I was indeed playing devils advocate

[sbsmith]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/high ... 487775.php

[mrydel]

I agree with you Judge Arkpony. I was a PI for 4 years, and when working criminal cases we would try to figure out the logic of the criminal in trying to solve the crime. The only thing I learned is that the criminal mind operates in a way that defies normal thinking. When you are sure the answer is north their mind is south. When a normal person would act one way they go the opposite. Some people are just wired differently.

[DanFreibergerForHeisman]

Some people are just wired differently.

So true.

I have always wondered if anybody has considered doing a psychological study of SMU fans.

[lwjr]

Two players are ejected then these two thugs pull their little stunt. That's four kids ejected from the same team within a few plays of each other. It seems their might be some deeper problems on that team