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Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:49 pm
by AfricanMustang
Fall 2016
Applied: 13,250
Admitted: 6,482 (48.92%)
Enrolled: 1,522 (23.56%)
Average SAT: 1,314
Average ACT: 29.3

Fall 2015
Applied: 12,992
Admitted: 6,360 (48.95%)
Enrolled: 1,374 (21.60)
Average SAT: 1,309
Average ACT: 29.4

Fall 2014
Applied: 11,817
Admitted: 6,192 (52.40%)
Enrolled: 1,459 (23.56%)
Average SAT: 1,308
Average ACT: 29.3

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:19 pm
by tristatecoog
2% higher yield made a big difference. Any idea what the target enrollment figure is? 1,500?

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:20 pm
by gostangs
question for those that know. Do these SAT average include all scores, and convert the ACT to the SAT, or are each of these numbers only that specific test? Seems like everyone is moving to ACT so wonder how much longer SAT will even be used for comparison purposes.

Progress on applications (these are finished applications - talking to you TCWHO), admitted (lower) and yield (higher). Overall student quality highest in Texas other than Rice.

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:14 pm
by deucetz
They don't include all. Only verbal and math. They aren't factoring in writing. SAT is on a 2400 scale now

6000 people accepted to get to 1500 smh. [deleted] poor recruiters.

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:46 pm
by AfricanMustang
gostangs wrote:question for those that know. Do these SAT average include all scores, and convert the ACT to the SAT, or are each of these numbers only that specific test? Seems like everyone is moving to ACT so wonder how much longer SAT will even be used for comparison purposes.

Progress on applications (these are finished applications - talking to you TCWHO), admitted (lower) and yield (higher). Overall student quality highest in Texas other than Rice.


Numbers are for that specific test. Yes, either more students are taking the ACT than the SAT, or for some reason somehow we are admitting more ACT takers than SAT takers

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:17 pm
by Pony^
AfricanMustang wrote:Numbers are for that specific test. Yes, either more students are taking the ACT than the SAT, or for some reason somehow we are admitting more ACT takers than SAT takers


More students are taking the ACT.
http://www.salon.com/2016/08/24/bigger_numbers_of_high_school_grads_taking_act_college_test/

Some students reported scores from both the SAT and ACT. 685 entering freshmen reported SAT scores and 1,029 reported ACT scores, adding up to 1,714. The class size was 1,522.

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:40 pm
by Pony^
Average SAT - 2016, 2015, 2014

SMU: 1314, 1309, 1308
Baylor: 1220, 1230, 1231
TCU: 1172,1178, 1181


Average ACT Composite - 2016, 2015, 2014

SMU: 29.3, 29.4, 29.3
Baylor: 28.1, 27.7, 27.6
TCU: 27.6, 27.4, 27.0

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:54 pm
by gostangs
Wow - about 150 SAT points between SMU and TCU. I think our football team is closer to theirs in quality than they are to us in academics.

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:11 pm
by AfricanMustang
Pony^ wrote:
AfricanMustang wrote:Numbers are for that specific test. Yes, either more students are taking the ACT than the SAT, or for some reason somehow we are admitting more ACT takers than SAT takers


More students are taking the ACT.
http://www.salon.com/2016/08/24/bigger_numbers_of_high_school_grads_taking_act_college_test/

Some students reported scores from both the SAT and ACT. 685 entering freshmen reported SAT scores and 1,029 reported ACT scores, adding up to 1,714. The class size was 1,522.


OK. Thank you!

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:56 pm
by tristatecoog
deucetz wrote:They don't include all. Only verbal and math. They aren't factoring in writing. SAT is on a 2400 scale now

6000 people accepted to get to 1500 smh. [deleted] poor recruiters.


A 24% yield isn't very good but other comparable schools have lower yields:

TCU - 23%
Rochester - 23%
BU - 21%
Pepperdine - 21%
Tulane - 20%
UCSD - 20%
Baylor - 19%
Miami - 17%
Case Western - 15%
Denver - 14%
Fordham - 12%

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-co ... -to-enroll

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:19 pm
by gostangs
baylor is not comparable. Ill never buy that. Never heard of anyone not getting in that school.

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:22 am
by Pony81
Baylor and TCU are pretty much open admission if you have the money to pay the full freight.

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:31 am
by tristatecoog
gostangs wrote:baylor is not comparable. Ill never buy that. Never heard of anyone not getting in that school.


Denver and TCU aren't either. I should've said comparable and/or of local interest. Denver was included as a rich private school in an urban area. I don't know of any that are wealthy and haven't been admitted to TCU/Baylor but do know some that missed out on SMU.

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:19 am
by deucetz
tristatecoog wrote:
deucetz wrote:They don't include all. Only verbal and math. They aren't factoring in writing. SAT is on a 2400 scale now

6000 people accepted to get to 1500 smh. [deleted] poor recruiters.


A 24% yield isn't very good but other comparable schools have lower yields:

TCU - 23%
Rochester - 23%
BU - 21%
Pepperdine - 21%
Tulane - 20%
UCSD - 20%
Baylor - 19%
Miami - 17%
Case Western - 15%
Denver - 14%
Fordham - 12%

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-co ... -to-enroll


Many also have lower acceptance rates as well

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:18 pm
by gostangs
Yield would be hard to accept if the results were poor students. We have the second highest student quality in the state. They obviously have lots of choices, and if you win one in four kids with 1320 SAT you are probably doing pretty well.

It would bug me if I was losing three out of four kids who average 1150 SAT 's like TCU.